How to destroy a thread

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by El Predicador

...thumping chests as though a great victory had been accomplished when in fact through these actions the cause of traditional standards have been set back ....

Most of traditional standards are quicksand and have little B-I-B-L-E to back them up to the heaven or hell issues we claim them to be.

[El Predicador]

Apocrypha,

Sorry don't respond to multi-page cut and pastes.

But if you want to have a dialogue and offer your personal opinion sometime, let me know.

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by El Predicador

Apocrypha,

Sorry don't respond to multi-page cut and pastes.

But if you want to have a dialogue and offer your personal opinion sometime, let me know.

Well, since we won't use anything as silly as scholarly work to use... its my firm opinion that your usage of the modern english word holiness is improper in its context and comes with a lot of extra-biblical baggage that sends a lot of good christians to hell because they are improperly trained about their position in Christ and it makes alot of good people give up or go bad. But its just my opinion since we can't use greek word studies in this conversation, and since Jesus loves me more obviously, I win. How does that work for you?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by El Predicador

A Lesson in Self-Defeat



If someone wanted to set back our holiness tradition for the next generation I would suggest the following course of action:

1.Begin a series of articles and sermons targeting those weak on holiness and new birth.

2.Right before the denominational conference start an internet site, something along the lines of We Proclaim.

3.As part of the "proclamations" be sure that culottes and dealing with split ends gets equal billing with the new birth.

4.Perhaps most important of all, in one fell swoop just announce that heaven or hell issues such as TV, movies, wedding bands etc. are no longer heaven or hell issues( like have been preached for generations) and should be left up to the local pastor to teach as he sees fit.

5.Maneuver behind the scenes so the pastor of the man most vocal about dialoguing with those whom you insist must be expelled from the organization gets elected General Superintendent.

6.Going around thumping chests as though a great victory had been accomplished when in fact through these actions the cause of traditional standards have been set back farther than the targets in number 1 ever could have accomplished.

Thank God no one is actually foolish enough to do this right?

FWIW - I really don't think the "WellIDoDeclare!.ORG" guys had much influence on the election of the new GS, or much say.

Looking over the list I only found one guy who is really respected within his district - and then a long list of guys I never heard of. The "leaders" were mostly outcasts and rabble (with the exception of that 'one guy').

The whole "bifurcated" thing shows just what pinheads these guys are. I seriously doubt you'll be seeing any of those names on the new GS's speaking invitation lists.

FWIW - the new GS has a long history and reputation for being "boring." That's what I like most about the guy. He's not likely to have any of these drama queens at his side.

[El Predicador]

Originally Posted by Apocrypha

Well, since we won't use anything as silly as scholarly work to use... its my firm opinion that your usage of the modern english word holiness is improper in its context and comes with a lot of extra-biblical baggage that sends a lot of good christians to hell because they are improperly trained about their position in Christ and it makes alot of good people give up or go bad. But its just my opinion since we can't use greek word studies in this conversation, and since Jesus loves me more obviously, I win. How does that work for you?

An original response. Proud of you son.

I have no issue with scholarship, in fact my background might surprise you.

However, first digest it and then give its essence. Massive cut and pastes denote either laziness or lack of understanding. Don't believe you intend to put forth either.

As far as Jesus loving you more, I do doubt it. Only because in my over half century of life I have no doubt He has thus far shown me more grace. Both greatly needed and undeserved.

[El Predicador]

Originally Posted by pelathais

FWIW - I really don't think the "WellIDoDeclare!.ORG" guys had much influence on the election of the new GS, or much say.

Looking over the list I only found one guy who is really respected within his district - and then a long list of guys I never heard of. The "leaders" were mostly outcasts and rabble (with the exception of that 'one guy').

The whole "bifurcated" thing shows just what pinheads these guys are. I seriously doubt you'll be seeing any of those names on the new GS's speaking invitation lists.

FWIW - the new GS has a long history and reputation for being "boring." That's what I like most about the guy. He's not likely to have any of these drama queens at his side.

And your feelings about #4 and 6?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Most of traditional standards are quicksand and have little B-I-B-L-E to back them up to the heaven or hell issues we claim them to be.

Oh, don't go and bring the B-I-B-L-E into it. That just wrecks the good vibes we feel when we decry the bloomers someone else's granny is wearing.

[Brad Murphy]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Oh, don't go and bring the B-I-B-L-E into it. That just wrecks the good vibes we feel when we decry the bloomers someone else's granny is wearing.

That just reeks of bifurbrication!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by El Predicador

And your feelings about #4 and 6?

#4 - I took as you being wry. Maybe I missed that?

#6 - I know most of the top tier in the "WellIDoDeclare!.ORG" thing and believe me, they live to thump their chests. No matter what happens - good or bad or in between - they'll come out thumping their chests.

If Richard Gazowsky had been elected they'd be thumping their chests. If Leonard Westberg were raised from the dead and elected they'd be in Nirvana - thumping their chests.

[Brad Murphy]

Originally Posted by pelathais

#4 - I took as you being wry. Maybe I missed that?

#6 - I know most of the top tier in the "WellIDoDeclare!.ORG" thing and believe me, they live to thump their chests. No matter what happens - good or bad or in between - they'll come out thumping their chests.

If Richard Gazowsky had been elected they'd be thumping their chests. If Leonard Westberg were raised from the dead and elected they'd be in Nirvana - thumping their chests.

You realize that I have made an oath to say something disparaging everytime the name Westberg is mentioned on the internet, right?