Obama says your all WEE WEED up!

[Jermyn Davidson]

[QUOTE=Pressing-On;792013]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

With Obama's plan private insurance with have to meet a new federal definition for coverage that your current plan may not be able to match even if you like it - that within five years.

When the Gov't sets the rules, backed by tax dollars, it will destroy and not compete with the private sector.

We want reform, but not a gov't centered approach.

And so since there is an abundant lack of specifics to this plan, how do we know that this is not just more misinformation?

This question is not to the fault of the GOP ops-- the President should have made his intent very clear from the beginning.


This is the first time ever reading or hearing anything like this before.

But, there will be something else new about the plan tomorrow.

Thanks Mr. President! What a real effective way to help the sick and dying!!!

That is who this national discussion should be about, but it's not.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

If you read any portion of the bill, you would see that it is ambiguous in many important areas. The majority of Americans are not comfortable with that. It's just that simple, Jermyn. There isn't much else that can be said on this topic, unless, we can figure out how to make it NOT read as a gov't takeover.

Is it ambiguous because the House was not near the point of presenting a strong working copy to the general public before the recess?


Who's to say that this was not the plan of some in the GOP the whole time-- in a way to make sure the President fails?


Regardless, it is that ambiguity that gives credence to the bed-wetting.

However, beds would not be wet right now if it wasn't for some GOP folks purposely stirring the pot and making this national issue and muddy and murky as possible.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

And so since there is an abundant lack of specifics to this plan, how do we know that this is not just more misinformation?

Jermyn,
I'll let you sit back and read what you wrote in bold.........A light bulb may come on after all. Love ya, brother, but really - read it again. Don't have any more time this afternoon. Print the bold out and put in on your refrigerator!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Jermyn,
I'll let you sit back and read what you wrote in bold.........A light bulb may come on after all. Love ya, brother, but really - read it again. Don't have any more time this afternoon. Print the bold out and put in on your refrigerator!

love ya too--

a lack of clarity is not an excuse to spread exaagerations and lies.

[Praxeas]

Good thing there is someone that can interpret what he says and tell us what he really meant

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Good thing there is someone that can interpret what he says and tell us what he really meant

Ah, quit getting wee wee'd up about nothing! If you need to know anything then our gracious, loving, caring president will let you know!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

love ya too--

a lack of clarity is not an excuse to spread exaagerations and lies.

I believe that the Republican party, as well as, the rest of the country have endorsed universal healthcare, but not in name.

It has fallen under the "show up at the emergency room". That tells us that we feel we have a moral obligation to treat patients regardless of their coverage.

Having said that, I agree with Newt Gingrich's point that we are required to have automobile insurance and that hasn't fallen under a socialist rule of law.

If we could work the healthcare issue in the same way, I think that would work much better. Tort reform, which we have done in Texas, is the place to start. Legal demands, at best, make people become dishonest. We need to do something about that. It's a beginning.

[Pressing-On]

This is a healthcare plan that I agree with. It needs to be discussed. In a nutshell - It’s a plan that is revenue neutral, improves incentives, and offers universal coverage.

Wyden-Bennett Healthy Americans Act

How We Can Achieve Bipartisan Health Reform

The Republicans agreed to require all individuals to have coverage and to provide subsidies where necessary to ensure that everyone can afford it. Most have agreed to require employers to contribute to the system and to pay workers wages equal to the amount the employer now contributes for health care. The Congressional Budget Office has reported that this framework is the only one thus far that bends the health-care cost curve down and makes it possible for the new system to pay for itself. It does this by creating a competitive market for health insurance in which individuals are empowered to choose the best values for their money and by cutting administrative costs and spreading risk across large groups of Americans.

First, we allow all Americans to have the same kind of choices available to us as members of Congress. Today, more than half of American workers who are lucky enough to have employer-provided insurance have no choice of coverage. Members of Congress who enroll their families in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program often have more than 10 options. This means that if members of Congress aren't happy with their family's insurance plan in 2009 or insurers raise their rates, they can pick a better plan in 2010. Our plan would give the consumer the same leverage in the health-care marketplace by creating state-run insurance exchanges through which they can select plans, including their existing employer-sponsored plan.

First, we allow all Americans to have the same kind of choices available to us as members of Congress. Today, more than half of American workers who are lucky enough to have employer-provided insurance have no choice of coverage. Members of Congress who enroll their families in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program often have more than 10 options. This means that if members of Congress aren't happy with their family's insurance plan in 2009 or insurers raise their rates, they can pick a better plan in 2010. Our plan would give the consumer the same leverage in the health-care marketplace by creating state-run insurance exchanges through which they can select plans, including their existing employer-sponsored plan.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080402523.html

[Pressing-On]

Barack Obama Performs "All Wee Wee'd Up"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi_ju0Bw0_U

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I believe that the Republican party, as well as, the rest of the country have endorsed universal healthcare, but not in name.

It has fallen under the "show up at the emergency room". That tells us that we feel we have a moral obligation to treat patients regardless of their coverage.

Having said that, I agree with Newt Gingrich's point that we are required to have automobile insurance and that hasn't fallen under a socialist rule of law.

If we could work the healthcare issue in the same way, I think that would work much better. Tort reform, which we have done in Texas, is the place to start. Legal demands, at best, make people become dishonest. We need to do something about that. It's a beginning.

Actually you are not required to cover your self. You are required to cover insurance on the cars you hit. Vastly different.

Reagan signed the law giving emergency medical tratment to people.