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Re: President Obama Destroys Economy!!!
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Gee I live here. I do not see this at all. All my co-workers have their own homes. What's weird is that they do NOT have mortgages. Different banking system. Fee-based. An eye-opener for me. But - maybe you know something I do not. Something besides how to apply an even shiny coat of hairspray or tuck your belly behind your belt for church. You probably "heard about" or "read about' something, right? The cure for ignorance is travel. If you can afford it, someday, after all your credit cards are paid and stuff, why don't you VISIT sometime then go home and write about what you experience rather than re-write something someone else (who has also probably not travelled either) talked about.
I am american, and i can state with flat up fact that fewer numbers of saudi women are mistreated here than those who are beat up, raped, and murdered every year in the US. In fact, I know none. I have not seen, read about, or heard about a single murder here since I came. Weird. I know a LOT of saudis. They DOTE on their wives. Very strong, proud families. On the other hand, most of those living in poverty there in the US are women. Re-recommend that you address this issue at home before patting your own backs as 'generous' and then looking overseas for strangers to example as "worse than me so I can sleep peacefully in my mortgaged home under my credit budget".
By birth only, you are a turncoat and a disgrace to America.
By birth and for 40 years after. The turncoats and disgraces to America are running America's banks, sitting in America's civil service offices, squatting in America's capital, and stealing American families blind. I never did a thing to America but do my job and pay taxes. Figures you would call that a disgrace. That is merely the "New America" speaking. You are the disgrace. You swallow whatever those morons give you to eat, believe what they tell you to believe, listen to what they tell you to listen to, and do what they tell you to do. Take care you do not choke.
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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY
By birth only, you are a turncoat and a disgrace to America.
Gee I live here. I do not see this at all. All my co-workers have their own homes. What's weird is that they do NOT have mortgages. Different banking system. Fee-based. An eye-opener for me. But - maybe you know something I do not. Something besides how to apply an even shiny coat of hairspray or tuck your belly behind your belt for church. You probably "heard about" or "read about' something, right? The cure for ignorance is travel. If you can afford it, someday, after all your credit cards are paid and stuff, why don't you VISIT sometime then go home and write about what you experience rather than re-write something someone else (who has also probably not travelled either) talked about.
I am american, and i can state with flat up fact that fewer numbers of saudi women are mistreated here than those who are beat up, raped, and murdered every year in the US. In fact, I know none. I have not seen, read about, or heard about a single murder here since I came. Weird. I know a LOT of saudis. They DOTE on their wives. Very strong, proud families. On the other hand, most of those living in poverty there in the US are women. Re-recommend that you address this issue at home before patting your own backs as 'generous' and then looking overseas for strangers to example as "worse than me so I can sleep peacefully in my mortgaged home under my credit budget".
BTW, I grew up in Egypt and don't have any debt (that is deliberate).
I agree with you in some area's.
That our country is run by a bunch of useless, thieving morons from corporate offices to the White House. Has been for quite awhile. I typically vote the constitutionalist ticket.
That most of the problems we have in the Middle east exist because the aforementioned morons can't seem to get a grip on the fact that America was in part founded on the principle of not meddling in other country's business.
No one to criticize what a poor job BHO is doing concerning the economy???
JERMYN
The stock market still does not trust Mr Obama! He spoke today about the economy and the market fell 102 points! Every time that crackpot opens his mouth the market falls!!!
I wish he would give a speech about every 3 days so I could buy when the market goes down!
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Re: President Obama Destroys Economy!!!
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Originally Posted by TJJJ
JERMYN
The stock market still does not trust Mr Obama! He spoke today about the economy and the market fell 102 points! Every time that crackpot opens his mouth the market falls!!!
I wish he would give a speech about every 3 days so I could buy when the market goes down!
Obama is a puppet!!!!
The thing that scares me we don't know who's puppet he is and whose pulling the strings.
Following is a list of things that scares me about Obama by Lou Prichett.
AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA
Dear President Obama, You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of the others, you truly scare me.
You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.
You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.
You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.
You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.
You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don't understand it at its core.
You scare me because you lack humility and 'class', always blaming others.
You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail.
You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the 'blame America' crowd and deliver this message abroad.
You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.
You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.
You scare me because you prefer 'wind mills' to responsibly capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.
You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of living in the world.
You scare me because you have begun to use 'extortion' tactics against certain banks and corporations.
You scare me because your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.
You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent people.
You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both omnipotent and omniscient.
You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything you do.
You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the Limbaughs, Hannitys, O'Relllys and Becks who offer opposing, conservative points of view.
You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.
Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.
The stock market still does not trust Mr Obama! He spoke today about the economy and the market fell 102 points! Every time that crackpot opens his mouth the market falls!!!
I wish he would give a speech about every 3 days so I could buy when the market goes down!
The new "american dream". "Success by speculation". The turncoats within have choosen speculation and profiting from the hard work and assets of others over hard work from themselves, saving, earning what they have or what they want, and depending on themselves to take care of themselves and their families. Sad.
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Originally Posted by TJJJ
JERMYN
The stock market still does not trust Mr Obama! He spoke today about the economy and the market fell 102 points! Every time that crackpot opens his mouth the market falls!!!
I wish he would give a speech about every 3 days so I could buy when the market goes down!
I grew up in the US and was a full part of the culture reflected by the posts here. The cultural differences are discussed at length here and on other parts of this forum. The difference between what I see and observe and what I read here and in other places amaze me sometimes. It is easy to brush off opinions from those who tolerate 16,000 murders a year on their own streets and spend so much time, energy, and resources searching for bits and pieces of information to prove how great they are or how right they are or how much better they have it. I will not embrace the "lifestyle of debt and greed" ever again. No matter how patriotic that lifestyle "appears to be". There is nothing, in my mind, to vote for. No matter who is on the ticket I know for sure that by the time they finish their job in their elected office I, my children, and now my grandchildren will somehow be additionally robbed.
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Originally Posted by John Atkinson
BTW, I grew up in Egypt and don't have any debt (that is deliberate).
I agree with you in some area's.
That our country is run by a bunch of useless, thieving morons from corporate offices to the White House. Has been for quite awhile. I typically vote the constitutionalist ticket.
That most of the problems we have in the Middle east exist because the aforementioned morons can't seem to get a grip on the fact that America was in part founded on the principle of not meddling in other country's business.
The stock market still does not trust Mr Obama! He spoke today about the economy and the market fell 102 points! Every time that crackpot opens his mouth the market falls!!!
I wish he would give a speech about every 3 days so I could buy when the market goes down!
The new "american dream". "Success by speculation". The turncoats within have choosen speculation and profiting from the hard work and assets of others over hard work from themselves, saving, earning what they have or what they want, and depending on themselves to take care of themselves and their families. Sad.
Uh, Mr Islam, that was given as satire, speaking to Jermyn.
So you are calling me a turncoat from within? Mr "There is no dog but allah"
Go climb on your camel and ride, joker, I didn't vote for Oblama and yes I do support AMERICA and what SHE STANDS FOR!
Go worship your little moon god named allah! allah is not God! Jesus is God, King of kings and Lord of lords!
This will probably get me banned but I am sick of reading your little slants of false doctrine. I have not posted anything directed to you but you opened the ball!
I grew up in the US and was a full part of the culture reflected by the posts here. The cultural differences are discussed at length here and on other parts of this forum. The difference between what I see and observe and what I read here and in other places amaze me sometimes. It is easy to brush off opinions from those who tolerate 16,000 murders a year on their own streets and spend so much time, energy, and resources searching for bits and pieces of information to prove how great they are or how right they are or how much better they have it. I will not embrace the "lifestyle of debt and greed" ever again. No matter how patriotic that lifestyle "appears to be". There is nothing, in my mind, to vote for. No matter who is on the ticket I know for sure that by the time they finish their job in their elected office I, my children, and now my grandchildren will somehow be additionally robbed.
It sounds like Saudi has opened up quite a bit. We almost moved there in 1975, at the time all the expat oilfield people had to live in isolated compounds and weren't allowed much contact with the people.
My observations aren't all just from propaganda, Sharia law can be really harsh on women, and Wahhabi's are so strict that their standards would make even the most conservative Apostolic shriek. I grew up around Sunni's, and they were good Sunni's like I was a good catholic. Funny though that religion was never a thing to come between friends.
As for Obama wrecking the economy? It was wrecked before he took the helm. But like someone said above, I find the man very very frightening.
If it wasn't for ministry calling and such I would possibly embrace the expat lifestyle once again, possibly never to return. Unlike all my neighbors I am not tied down by a mountain of debt. Don't have much, but I am free, and that is priceless to me. Even if the day job was to go away tomorrow it would pinch, but me and mine wouldn't be in a tent and dining at the soup kitchen over it.
To be honest about all I love about the USA today is the landscape and the ideas upon which it was founded. Does that make me a traitor, nope, it makes me a Patriot. Because I believe in the constitution and bill of rights just like it was written, before the yahoos twisted it beyond all recognition. The traitors are in corporate boardrooms, plush offices on wall street, the house of representatives, the senate, the supreme court, with king traitor himself sitting in a funny shaped office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
You have probably heard this joke somwhere in your travels....
The standards are still the standards. The Mutawwa (religious police) still send expats to the store to buy scarves and still chew out husbands if their wives and daughters dress immodestly. It is not like it was some kind of secret before they arrived so it's hard to drum up sympathy lol. They (we) are guests here after all. My wife dresses the same as she did in the US and her home country so we never get bothered. My Saudi friends really seem to dote on their wives. They normally just "assume" I am christian. The laws are strict about mixed company of singles but that is straight up Islam aka keep your hands and eyes to yourselves until you get married. Pity some form of that can't be taught back home.
Most of the expats buy SUV's and roam the middle east (laughing). Dubai, Bahrain, other places. We're still getting used to the macho highway stuff (are Egyptian drivers just plain crazy like the drivers here?) but we are getting out and about more and more.
Where they (Saudis) really need work is treatment of poorer expats like household help and such. Breaking their contracts, enslaving them, taking their passports, trapping them is not Islam and it not what Islam is about. Recent establishment of a human rights department or some such to deal with these cases is a good first step.
There are cases of mis-application of Sharia law -reference the case where that moron judge allowed the 8-yr-old girl to "marry" to pay her father's debt. There was a lot of anger here about that, she was placed with her mother until things were settled, and last week I heard the court granted a "divorce". That particular case was so far outside Islam and Islamic law that there was not much convincing needed.
Freedom IS priceless. Our number one reason to make the decision to pack it up and leave. Best of luck to you and yours.
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Originally Posted by John Atkinson
It sounds like Saudi has opened up quite a bit. We almost moved there in 1975, at the time all the expat oilfield people had to live in isolated compounds and weren't allowed much contact with the people.
My observations aren't all just from propaganda, Sharia law can be really harsh on women, and Wahhabi's are so strict that their standards would make even the most conservative Apostolic shriek. I grew up around Sunni's, and they were good Sunni's like I was a good catholic. Funny though that religion was never a thing to come between friends.
As for Obama wrecking the economy? It was wrecked before he took the helm. But like someone said above, I find the man very very frightening.
If it wasn't for ministry calling and such I would possibly embrace the expat lifestyle once again, possibly never to return. Unlike all my neighbors I am not tied down by a mountain of debt. Don't have much, but I am free, and that is priceless to me. Even if the day job was to go away tomorrow it would pinch, but me and mine wouldn't be in a tent and dining at the soup kitchen over it.
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