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Old 04-17-2009, 12:17 PM
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Why is it unfortunate? Does it hurt you or your children if homosexuality is not thought of, in the general public, as evil?

(In case you haven't seen my posts on this topic before, I am of the opinion that homosexuality is not wrong. It's not a sin. God doesn't care about it. The Bible is wrong about it. Just as wrong as it was about eating shellfish being a sin, or mixing types of thread in clothing, requiring parents to have their kids killed if they were disobedient. People made up a lot of things and attributed it to God, back then as they do today. IMO! )
God's moral laws do not change!
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My nephew said signs around his school identified it as red.

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Why is it unfortunate? Does it hurt you or your children if homosexuality is not thought of, in the general public, as evil?

(In case you haven't seen my posts on this topic before, I am of the opinion that homosexuality is not wrong. It's not a sin. God doesn't care about it. The Bible is wrong about it. Just as wrong as it was about eating shellfish being a sin, or mixing types of thread in clothing, requiring parents to have their kids killed if they were disobedient. People made up a lot of things and attributed it to God, back then as they do today. IMO! )
We would definitely disagree on this issue. The bolded part is a problem, imo. I would believe the Bible in any case - to not do so will result badly for you, my friend.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:24 PM
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Why is it unfortunate? Does it hurt you or your children if homosexuality is not thought of, in the general public, as evil?

(In case you haven't seen my posts on this topic before, I am of the opinion that homosexuality is not wrong. It's not a sin. God doesn't care about it. The Bible is wrong about it. Just as wrong as it was about eating shellfish being a sin, or mixing types of thread in clothing, requiring parents to have their kids killed if they were disobedient. People made up a lot of things and attributed it to God, back then as they do today. IMO! )
You have the right to be wrong. And your opinions don't hurt my children--because by the time they are adults, I will have thoroughly educated them in what scripture has to say on the issue (and many others), the infallibility of God's Word, and what foundation their life should be built upon--the Word of God.

However, being exposed to open sinful acts can be harmful to small psyches, and I intend to protect the innocence of my children as long as possible. They will learn about immorality soon enough, without having to stumble upon fornication, homosexuality and effeminence in their school. (as well as many other sinful actions)

I prefer for this home to be a haven from the world, as well as an environment that supports healthy exploration, education and enrichment. We do not need corrupt influences in order to turn out well-rounded children. In fact, the BIBLE says that evil communications corrupt good manners. Exposing an immature child to evil influences seems like a bad idea to me.

The job of a parent is to equip their child with tools--not push them into battle to get actual experience (often before they even have sword in hand.)

So, being exposed to sin in a graphic nature IS harmful to children, IMO. Especially when it is given no context by a mature adult. Preferably that adult will be a parent who cares about the child, and wants to instill moral values and character, rather than a political agenda.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:30 PM
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God's moral laws do not change!
It's your opinion that they are God's laws. And it's a groundless opinion (in my opinion ).

And where is the breakdown of which laws are moral and which are ceremonial?
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My nephew said signs around his school identified it as red.


We would definitely disagree on this issue. The bolded part is a problem, imo. I would believe the Bible in any case - to not do so will result badly for you, my friend.
No, it won't.
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No, it won't.
How do you know?
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You have the right to be wrong. And your opinions don't hurt my children--because by the time they are adults, I will have thoroughly educated them in what scripture has to say on the issue (and many others), the infallibility of God's Word, and what foundation their life should be built upon--the Word of God.

However, being exposed to open sinful acts can be harmful to small psyches, and I intend to protect the innocence of my children as long as possible. They will learn about immorality soon enough, without having to stumble upon fornication, homosexuality and effeminence in their school. (as well as many other sinful actions)

I prefer for this home to be a haven from the world, as well as an environment that supports healthy exploration, education and enrichment. We do not need corrupt influences in order to turn out well-rounded children. In fact, the BIBLE says that evil communications corrupt good manners. Exposing an immature child to evil influences seems like a bad idea to me.

The job of a parent is to equip their child with tools--not push them into battle to get actual experience (often before they even have sword in hand.)

So, being exposed to sin in a graphic nature IS harmful to children, IMO. Especially when it is given no context by a mature adult. Preferably that parent will be an adult who cares about the child, and wants to instill moral values and character, rather than a political agenda.
My parents "thoroughly educated" me, too, but look what happened!

And you, too, have the right to be wrong! And some of the GLBT movement is overzealous -- even way over, at times. That isn't right, either, when it interferes with your right to teach your kids your own values.
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It's not right for a girl to be singled out and embarrassed for her views. It's not right for a boy to be assaulted for being (mistakenly, as it turned out) gay or for supporting gay rights. Both sides need to chill.
I will be teaching my boys that there is never a good reason to bully a person and if someone is being bullied to stand up for them. even if that person is gay or what ever.

there are no excuses. But dont start with the gay agenda and tell kids that it isnt ok to think homosexuality is a sin.
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How do you know?
I don't, actually. I should have added "IMO".

But nobody knows. You don't know for sure that you have guessed right. Muslims don't know for sure, Mormans, Hindus, you name it. They have all guessed what to believe (or just followed their parents, without questioning it). They can't all be right. But they may all be wrong!
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I will be teaching my boys that there is never a good reason to bully a person and if someone is being bullied to stand up for them. even if that person is gay or what ever.

there are no excuses. But dont start with the gay agenda and tell kids that it isnt ok to think homosexuality is a sin.
And the problems arise when calling homosexuality a sin is then called "bullying."

If a high school boy can come to school dressed flamboyantly gay, and proclaim his feelings for his boyfriend, and they can make out in front of their classmates, then a Christian child should have the equal freedom to speak up and say that those are wrong acts in the sight of God without fear of reprisal from the school staff or any other organization.

The truth is, their agenda does not just include freedom for themselves, but they want to change everyone else's MIND about it as well, and are angry when they can't. The very people who claim to be all about diversity, are really very narrow minded.
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