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View Poll Results: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
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Every Morning, without fail.
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This is a non-issue, you idiot!
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Only on Wednesdays and Sundays, right before church. 
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02-10-2009, 12:06 AM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Re: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
I shave for the military. I do what I'm told to do. The thing with the military is that there is nothing more to it-- we shave as a practice of discipline and hygiene.
There is value to be clean shaven in an NBC or radiation environment, but that is not an every day situation.
When folks try to add salvational value to a man-made discipline, they're simply wrong.
Folks would be better of to just simply state, "Don't shave because I told you so,"-- or maybe something a little less abrasive.
Then it truly becomes a matter of obedience and submission.
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I can't imagine how arbitrarily demanding anything without scriptural support would be better than just making stuff up... they are one and the same.
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02-10-2009, 12:13 AM
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Re: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
I can't imagine how arbitrarily demanding anything without scriptural support would be better than just making stuff up... they are one and the same.
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Nope, not one in the same.
If you come into my house, you will take off your shoes at the front door.
Now you don't have to come to my house, but if you receive an invitation to my house and you accept it, then you should respect my house.
Same if I was running a business, if you work for me, then you will follow my guidelines or you're fired.
So if I was a member of a church that had "Platform Rules" or "Leadership Requirements" that were presented as such and only as such, then it negates all of the stupidity of adding to the Bible to legitimize someone's preference.
Eve was deceived once she added to the word of God. She would have been fine just leaving God's word the way it was, without adding her emphasis as God's Word.
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02-10-2009, 12:16 AM
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Re: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Nope, not one in the same.
If you come into my house, you will take off your shoes at the front door.
Now you don't have to come to my house, but if you receive an invitation to my house and you accept it, then you should respect my house.
Same if I was running a business, if you work for me, then you will follow my guidelines or you're fired.
So if I was a member of a church that had "Platform Rules" or "Leadership Requirements" that were presented as such and only as such, then it negates all of the stupidity of adding to the Bible to legitimize someone's preference.
Eve was deceived once she added to the word of God. She would have been fine just leaving God's word the way it was, without adding her emphasis as God's Word.
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Yup I do understand that more... But for the general membership 
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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02-10-2009, 12:18 AM
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Re: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Yup I do understand that more... But for the general membership |
Agreed.
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02-10-2009, 07:23 AM
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Re: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
Hmmmm - le's see....searching the scripture.........trying to find what the bible says about a man shaving......searching.......searching...... searching.....hmm can't see to see where it is an issue in the Bible - so I guess if you say it is a "sin" or "unholy" for a man not to shave you are adding something the scriptures and I am pretty sure we are NOT supposed to do that 
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02-10-2009, 07:41 AM
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Re: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
I can hear Paul now, "Men, It dosen't matter if ya get circumsized or not anymore, but if you're gonna play that instrument up here with everybody else, you're gonna have to look apostolic, not worldly, and that means atleast stay smooth shaved". And men, we need that with any leadership ministry here at Corinth as well.
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02-10-2009, 08:40 AM
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Re: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
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Originally Posted by shag
I can hear Paul now, "Men, It dosen't matter if ya get circumsized or not anymore, but if you're gonna play that instrument up here with everybody else, you're gonna have to look apostolic, not worldly, and that means atleast stay smooth shaved". And men, we need that with any leadership ministry here at Corinth as well.
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If you don't like it, you can find another church to attend and to serve in.
Don't you think the Pastor has the right to make rules and boundaries for the folks that help him lead the church in the direction of the vision that God has allowed the Pastor to have?
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02-10-2009, 08:46 AM
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Re: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
So if I was a member of a church that had "Platform Rules" or "Leadership Requirements" that were presented as such and only as such, then it negates all of the stupidity of adding to the Bible to legitimize someone's preference.
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One of my dad's best friends who pastors an org church in SC .... tells those members that have facial hair and want to minister on the platform ...
"You won't find it anywhere in your Bible. So don't even bother to look for it. We just do it this way here. Shave."
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02-10-2009, 08:51 AM
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Re: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Nope, not one in the same.
If you come into my house, you will take off your shoes at the front door.
Now you don't have to come to my house, but if you receive an invitation to my house and you accept it, then you should respect my house.
Same if I was running a business, if you work for me, then you will follow my guidelines or you're fired.
So if I was a member of a church that had "Platform Rules" or "Leadership Requirements" that were presented as such and only as such, then it negates all of the stupidity of adding to the Bible to legitimize someone's preference.
Eve was deceived once she added to the word of God. She would have been fine just leaving God's word the way it was, without adding her emphasis as God's Word.
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What is too often misunderstood is, "Who's house is it?" It should be the Father's House and it is He that should be making the rules. Church leaders that don't understand this are simply lording it over the children of God.
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02-10-2009, 08:54 AM
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crakjak
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Re: How Often Must a Man Shave to be Saved?
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
One of my dad's best friends who pastors an org church in SC .... tells those members that have facial hair and want to minister on the platform ...
"You won't find it anywhere in your Bible. So don't even bother to look for it. We just do it this way here. Shave."
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It is still the wrong focus. Men think ordering the outward appearance makes one more acceptable to the Lord.
By doing so, many that would come do not come.
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