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Old 11-05-2008, 05:26 PM
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Re: 11/4 is bigger than 9/11

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You really lose me when you inject race into this. By definition the bolded statement is divisive. I have never made such divisions in my own mind.
You guys, I'm not "injecting' race into anything. I am a college educated white person. I have no axe to grind. I think it's great that minorities are voting in larger blocks. I am saying that the numbers in which they are voting has changed the political landscape of the country and that a black man in the White House breaks the hold that white men have held on it up to this point. It's an obvious point and not one worth debating. I am only commenting that I think this signifies a fundamental shift in politics and is evidence of a major cultural shift that's been happening for quite awhile. I'm not being racist when I say that. To imply that I am is uninformed.
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:30 PM
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Re: 11/4 is bigger than 9/11

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Relax!!! I get you, really!

Then again I'm also somewhat college educated myself....
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Relax!!! I get you, really!

Then again I'm also somewhat college educated myself....
r u feelin' me?
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It's my opinion that this election is the official beginning of a new era for the US on a social/cultural/moral level. I think we have, like our European counterparts, entered into the post-Christian, post-Anglo, post-modern era. O is the first Prez elected by pomo's and an age has passed. The WWII and Vietnam era is over. Enter the age of Web 2.0 and the New Media and the man who leveraged that technology and the hopes of a disconnected pomo political block into a new political powerhouse.


I say post-Anglo cuz 95% of blacks and 66% of Hispanics voted for O. They're the new voting power, not whites. The Hispanic influence will only grow and blacks will be increasingly active due to the emergence of O. He's the great black/brown hope. I realize that may sound racist. It's not. At least not when I say it. I think it's a good thing.

9/11 propelled us to this point as the politics of the past bore their bitter fruit for all to see.

This shift has been going on for 10-20 years in our culture. It's now official and at the top of the power hierarchy and will shape our culture.
What percentage of whites voted for O?
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Numbers show 61% Whites 23% Blacks 16% Hispanic

White postulation was the biggest supporters of Obama!

The rest of the world is more or less jubilant. The world is relieved that it will be no more Bush (soon) or Bush doctrine. But the rockets and bombs are still flying and people are still dying as evidenced by the Israel attack on the Gaza Strip again. It’s business as usual, you know that, a situation that simply isn’t ever going to change unless real change finally transpires and that remains utterly elusive I’m afraid.
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Hmmm.......poor Hamas, they are such humanitarians and peace lovers............
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... I am saying that the numbers in which they are voting has changed the political landscape of the country and that a black man in the White House breaks the hold that white men have held on it up to this point. ... I am only commenting that I think this signifies a fundamental shift in politics and is evidence of a major cultural shift that's been happening for quite awhile.
There is a cultural shift that indicates that we are on the brink of becoming a post-racist nation. That aspect of this election is cause for hope and good cheer. However, the change in the political landscape is little understood, as of yet. This is because a vast plurality of his supporters do not understand that Mr. Obama is Marxist, or what Marxism looks like upon implementation, or to what extent Mr. Obama will attempt or succeed at implementing Marxism here.

Instead of training people to be able to reason, think of consequences, and understand economics, our government schools train people to assimilate, comply, and be easily manipulated via emotion.

So I believe that the political shifts we are about to experience are largely going to be a surprise, to us, to Obama's supporters, and probably even to Obama himself. There is no way anybody can say with certainty what he's going to do. There is no track record of achievement to use as a basis for projection. If he were to apply for night shift manager at McDonald's, they'd turn him down for lack of qualification. He has thus far shown himself to be a top-rate salesman, and little else. How much of his dreams for "hope and change" has he been honest about? How much of it is he going to try to turn into reality? What of it is actually possible? * (* that's the tricky part, once you delve into the economics)

Obama himself is an emotional person, not one for logic or reason. His advisors may be able to employ strategies to distract him from some of the more largely destructive Marxist policy initiatives to which he would otherwise be inclined to push.

Those Marxist goals he is able to accomplish may end up not sitting very well with a large majority of his supporters, once the cold hard economic realities began to slap them in the face. The law of unintended consequences gives no free pass to the right or to the left.
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post-anglo is nonsense. Obama could not have won without independent, young, educated, democratic white vote. stop trying to make this a racial election. Polls show that age was more of a factor than race.
Race was huge factor, he wouldn't even be in the race if he wasn't black. let's not pretend otherwise.
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what percentage of whites voted for o?
64% w 23% b 16% h
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64% w 23% b 16% h
I think what you gave there was what percentage of the votes that were cast for Obama were from white voters.

I think what Praxeas was looking for was, of all the white voters, what percentage of them cast their vote for Obama.
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