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View Poll Results: Death Penalty - Where do you stand?
For 13 43.33%
Against 11 36.67%
Unsure 6 20.00%
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:02 PM
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty

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1 Peter 2:13-14
3 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
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Re: Should christians believe in the death penalty

None of us would be saved without the death penalty.
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I am for the death penalty: God's word commanded it.

Sorry folks believe you are more moral or compassionate than God but the fact remains.

Since the abolition of the death sentence crime has risen in this country.

The states that have the penalty also have imposed laws that allow for prisoners to have extensive time to appeal.

It is meant as a deterrent but the lowering of the crimes has allowed more crime that does not fall under the death sentence e.g. rape.

Which is also a violation of God's word.

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Could you share any NT references that instruct us to do so?

We have OT references to stone adulterers but we don't stone adulterers.

There are many instructions to exact punishments in the OT that were not repeated in the NT and that we no longer fulfill.
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None of us would be saved without the death penalty.
None of us would be saved had not our deserved penalty of death taken for us by our Christ.
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1 Peter 2:13-14
3 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
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It would apply.

But it would not affect whether we voted for or against said death penalty when given the chance.

We, as Christians, could work against the death penalty within the realm of the obedience these scriptures call for.

To obey the laws of the land does not keep us from trying to change those laws through proper channels.
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I didn't say "canning" but "caning" as in beating like some asian countries do.
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It would apply.

But it would not affect whether we voted for or against said death penalty when given the chance.

We, as Christians, could work against the death penalty within the realm of the obedience these scriptures call for.

To obey the laws of the land does not keep us from trying to change those laws through proper channels.
He said they wee for the punishment of evil doers and the main punish at the time that was written was the death penalty.
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Could you share any NT references that instruct us to do so?

We have OT references to stone adulterers but we don't stone adulterers.

There are many instructions to exact punishments in the OT that were not repeated in the NT and that we no longer fulfill.
We're not a theocratic, nation-state like Israel was. GOD never called for the church to set up a political, national government. We have nothing in the NT that can draw up plans for this sort of system, punishments for crimes, a constitution or anything like that.
Israel had some of these things, and they were supposed to go by the book and stone certain criminals, but the NT doesn't have these things because GOD didn't intend for a Christian theocracy (and perhaps not for Christians to be involved in these forms of government).

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Could you share any NT references that instruct us to do so?

We have OT references to stone adulterers but we don't stone adulterers.

There are many instructions to exact punishments in the OT that were not repeated in the NT and that we no longer fulfill.
If we are using old testament law then we should be stoning rebelious children too.Duet. 21:18
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If we are using old testament law then we should be stoning rebelious children too.Duet. 21:18
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