Evil Triumphs When Good People Do Nothing

[Blubayou]

Wonderful words Miss Bratt-

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

tv1a,

I agree with MOW here. The biblical guideline is to return good for evil. Do you really believe that "these people" can tear down what God has built? You do not need to defend God. He can do it, and is much more capable than you are.

I was once in the position of being attacked, and I kept my mouth shut. I didn't breathe a word to my fellow saints, or even to my friends. Vicious lies, and attacks against me from the pulpit. And I didn't even let my lip quiver or say one word against the pastor or the other people who participated. 8 years later, the truth came out in a way that not only exonerated me, but shamed every person who ever said a word against me. God took care of it. Not in the time frame I would have liked, but in a much better way than I could have done.

And the great thing is, God has my heart at a place, that when my enemy "fell", I didn't rejoice over it. But I do appreciate God taking up my cause, and trust Him to do it again, if need be.

I recommend taking the blog down, writing every name on it on a prayer list, and asking God to bless every person on the list every morning. And if you can't say it sincerely, pray until you can.

It is not our job to fight these kinds of battles, except on our knees.

GREAT SOUND ADVICE! GREAT POST!!!

Hugs,

Falla39

[tv1a]

Please understand my motives.

This is not a situation where holding the peace is called for.

There are times to fight and there are times to hold one's peace.

David didn't hold his peace against Goliath.
Jesus didn't hold his peace against the moneychangers.
Paul didn't hold his peace against Peter and against the legalists.

The Bible is full of examples of cases where men of character didn't hold thier peace.

People who know me know I let a lot go under the bridge. But if it comes down to the salvation of my kids and them. They lose every time. My kids will know I stand for truth and righteousness. Even when people I have admired and respected stand against truth and righteousness.

One of the reasons I'm still serving God today is because as a kid, my father took a similar stand. My father showed me christians can be principled people. He showed me a christian doesn't have to play the "game" to be used in God's Kingdom.

If I don't fight this another generation dies and goes to hell. It's the chance I'm willing to take. I"m one guy who is willing to pick up a rock, put it in the slingshot, and aim it right at the enemy's head.

I realize this is a spiritual fight. That is why I'm using all the weapons at my disposal. God has given the blueprint for victory over our enemies.

There is no way hell is going to take my community again.

The gameplan has already achieved desired results above and beyond my expectations. The enemy is scattered and confused not knowing where the next hit will come from.

Good news, God is still blessing our youth group. Still getting all kinds of first time teens coming. We've had close to 300 kids come through our youth center since the doors open May 2008. Wonder why the devil's mad? Understand now why I'm fighting?

I beleive God is using my abilities to be a warrior in this battle. God didn't give me legal knowledge and media expertise so I could twiddle my thumbs. One hopees these abilities would be used to strengthen God's Kingdom instead of fighting against the enemies of God.

Originally Posted by Falla39

Victory, victory shall be mine;
Victory, victory shall be mine,
IF I hold my peace, and let (allow, permit)
the Lord to fight my battles.
Victory, victory shall be mine.

But IF we don't let (allow, permit) the LORD (who is well able)
to fight the battles, (spiritual or other) we will not see Victory!
There are alternatives to not allowing GOD to fight our battles.

Not talking about this particular situtation, as I do not know, nor
do I want to know the details. I am speaking in general terms. God
sees it all! He knows the motives, the details. He will judge righteously
for He is ALL-KNOWING, ALL-WISE, ALMIGHTY!!!! This applies to any
situation.

Blessings,

Falla39

[tv1a]

I feel it is in the best interest of the forum this thread be locked from further comments.

It may seem strange for the thread's starter to request such action, but I would not have any problems with this thread being locked.

thnx

tv

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by tv1a

I feel it is in the best interest of the forum this thread be locked from further comments.

It may seem strange for the thread's starter to request such action, but I would not have any problems with this thread being locked.

thnx

tv

Troy,

I can sense your frustration and your righteous indignation on this thread. HOwever, I have to agree with others who have already posted - you should stand still and let God fight this battle.

The other problem, as I see it, is this - you've presented your case, but in so doing, you've made some accusations against ministers who are not here to defend themselves.

So, I suppose my question is this - what did you intend to accomplish with this thread?

[tv1a]

Maybe one doesn't understand the implications of spiritual pacificsm. There are scriptural precedence for this type of extreme warfare.

As far as bitterness, not a single bitter bone in my body. If my kids were lost because this evil element was allowed to take over, than I would be bitter. The blog stays until the battle is over. But the thread could be locked...

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

tv1a,

I agree with MOW here. The biblical guideline is to return good for evil. Do you really believe that "these people" can tear down what God has built? You do not need to defend God. He can do it, and is much more capable than you are.

I was once in the position of being attacked, and I kept my mouth shut. I didn't breathe a word to my fellow saints, or even to my friends. Vicious lies, and attacks against me from the pulpit. And I didn't even let my lip quiver or say one word against the pastor or the other people who participated. 8 years later, the truth came out in a way that not only exonerated me, but shamed every person who ever said a word against me. God took care of it. Not in the time frame I would have liked, but in a much better way than I could have done.

And the great thing is, God has my heart at a place, that when my enemy "fell", I didn't rejoice over it. But I do appreciate God taking up my cause, and trust Him to do it again, if need be.

I recommend taking the blog down, writing every name on it on a prayer list, and asking God to bless every person on the list every morning. And if you can't say it sincerely, pray until you can.

It is not our job to fight these kinds of battles, except on our knees.

[tv1a]

Good questions.

1. Multiple attemps were made by myself to provide opportunity for scriptural reconciliation. Each attempt was ignored.

2. THis pastor made these accusations public. He lied about me just to further his agenda.

3. That minsiter could attempt to defend his actions if he wants.

4. What this preacher didn't expect was someone to play the game by the rules he plays by.

5. I expect the preacher to do the godly thing and apologize for dragging my family in his beef with an incredible man of God.

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Troy,

I can sense your frustration and your righteous indignation on this thread. HOwever, I have to agree with others who have already posted - you should stand still and let God fight this battle.

The other problem, as I see it, is this - you've presented your case, but in so doing, you've made some accusations against ministers who are not here to defend themselves.

So, I suppose my question is this - what did you intend to accomplish with this thread?

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Good questions.

1. Multiple attemps were made by myself to provide opportunity for scriptural reconciliation. Each attempt was ignored.

2. THis pastor made these accusations public. He lied about me just to further his agenda.

3. That minsiter could attempt to defend his actions if he wants.

4. What this preacher didn't expect was someone to play the game by the rules he plays by.

5. I expect the preacher to do the godly thing and apologize for dragging my family in his beef with an incredible man of God.

You need to focus on the good deeds God has called you to do. You may not see it, but many here can see your justification of the wrong attitude you have in "getting back" at someone you perceive has done you wrong. You need to let God take care of it on His own.

Many of us here have experience in spiritual warfare and have won those battles. But if you use the same tactics that the enemy uses, you will lose every time. I know you don't see yourself like this, but that is because you are so close to the situation.