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Old 08-22-2008, 01:56 PM
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Re: What would you do in this case?

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A few years ago when I was pastoring, I posted several of my messages on a website called www.preachit.org. Obviously, I am no longer pastoring, but I still get calls quite frequently from preachers all over the country thanking me for the messages, etc. I am very happy that even though I'm not preaching them, they are still being broadcast and being a blessing to others.

Today I logged onto EA, and was scanning the front page. I was quite surprised to see one of my sermon titles listed on the right side of the page, and I thought, "Hmm, maybe someone posted it from the other website".

Well, I clicked on it, and it was my message - word for word, but another preacher had taken credit for it!

Now, I don't mind telling you, I was a bit miffed. But, should I have been? I never copywrited the message, so maybe I really can't complain.

What are your thoughts on this issue?
I'd probably start a thread in the forum on EA, something similar to what you said here... It's just wrong for someone else to take credit.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:00 PM
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It is printed.

I have the date I posted it on the other website, which was around 2002, and then there is the date he posted it on EA, which is like yesterday!

However, I'm not out for blood, mainly I was out for a sanity check.......I don't want to be carnal about this!
People need to be held accountable for dishonesty. I hope you contact him and ask him to either delete it or correctly attribute it.

It is a shame that any man calling himself a pastor or even a Christian would steal a sermon word for word like that and put their own name on it.
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Re: What would you do in this case?

well said cc1, i agree, dt
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:25 PM
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Ok, that's it. I'm signing up and straightening things out!!!
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: What would you do in this case?

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People need to be held accountable for dishonesty. I hope you contact him and ask him to either delete it or correctly attribute it.

It is a shame that any man calling himself a pastor or even a Christian would steal a sermon word for word like that and put their own name on it.
I haven't decided what to do just yet.

I probably wouldn't have been so disappointed if it hadn't been copied word for word from the other website, with no mention.

I have a friend who preaches some of my original messages, and posts them on his website, but at the bottom of each one he makes a statement that the message is original to his good friend, Mike Phelps, lol.
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:34 PM
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Re: What would you do in this case?

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A few years ago when I was pastoring, I posted several of my messages on a website called www.preachit.org. Obviously, I am no longer pastoring, but I still get calls quite frequently from preachers all over the country thanking me for the messages, etc. I am very happy that even though I'm not preaching them, they are still being broadcast and being a blessing to others.

Today I logged onto EA, and was scanning the front page. I was quite surprised to see one of my sermon titles listed on the right side of the page, and I thought, "Hmm, maybe someone posted it from the other website".

Well, I clicked on it, and it was my message - word for word, but another preacher had taken credit for it!

Now, I don't mind telling you, I was a bit miffed. But, should I have been? I never copywrited the message, so maybe I really can't complain.

What are your thoughts on this issue?

If you still post or whatever on preachit I would contact them and let them know that someone is stealing from their website. And then I would contact EA and .ning about it.
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stand up for yourself mp, no one else is you, dt
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:43 PM
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If you still post or whatever on preachit I would contact them and let them know that someone is stealing from their website. And then I would contact EA and .ning about it.
I believe when you join preachit.org(pay) you have permission to use the sermons. not sure exactly all the rules of the use. I do know it is a paid subcription for members.
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I believe when you join preachit.org(pay) you have permission to use the sermons. not sure exactly all the rules of the use. I do know it is a paid subcription for members.
I don't think Brother Phelps would have brought this up if that were the case.
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I believe when you join preachit.org(pay) you have permission to use the sermons. not sure exactly all the rules of the use. I do know it is a paid subcription for members.
Even if that were the case it doesn't give you the right to lie and claim they are your sermons when you didn't create them.
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