Houses and Mansions

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Esther

I don't know that they controlled the temples either. I do know that Peter and John was on their way to the Temple when they stopped to heal the lame man. And if memory serves me right they went daily.

Yes indeed, they did go to the temple and MORE...

26Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

I would argue this was all in the transitional era following the introduction of the gospel.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by shag

Thanks for posting Stephen.

With that in mind, How do you feel about songs like: "Let us go into the house of the Lord". (and many more, from O.T. psalms). Compared to N.T. scripture?

And comments like . "Invite someone to come to God's house today" or, "Welcome to God's house, where anything can happen".

Doesn't that subconciencously send a message that you gotta be at the church building to see the "anything that can happen" (miracles etc)(especially when its said a lot)? And leave us perhaps a little weaker in faith, when it comes to us operating in the "anything happening" outside the building? (like praying miracles with someone at a public setting outside of the church building) Not to mention where does the building being so often referred to as the "house of God" line up with N.T. scripture like these:

Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood,....

Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us,.....

Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, .....

Thanks again for commenting on the subject.

I would like to think we could still sing those psalms and balance the meaning out with teaching on the NT focus of Christ IN us.

Those are interestng scriptures especially 4:17.

All in all - yes, I agree, to often there is an inordinate affection placed on "The House of God".

Another concern is the excusivity that is implied with it.

I prefer to say "a place of worship", or "the assembly" (of believers).

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

What about the references to "The House of God"? Is this OK? Certainly there was a time of transition, even Jesus made referece to "My House", but was this intended to continue after the introduction of New Conevant?

Know ye not... ye ARE the temple...

That depends on what they mean. We tend to also call the place we meet "the sanctuary". But I think if you asked them they simply mean this is the building where we all come together and God comes too (where two or more are gathered)

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Esther

I don't know that they controlled the temples either. I do know that Peter and John was on their way to the Temple when they stopped to heal the lame man. And if memory serves me right they went daily.

They never controlled it. They were eventually kicked out. They also went to synagogues but this was to evangelize

[Praxeas]

BTW calling that building the house of God or whatever does not necessarily mean they are saying that building is the church. The church always refers to the people but in the OT the temple or house of God always refereed to the building. So there is no correlation

[stmatthew]

Some seem to regulate everything else to "heaven". Why not streets of Gold (biblically a singular STREET), and mansions next door to Jesus??

[shag]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

BTW calling that building the house of God or whatever does not necessarily mean they are saying that building is the church. The church always refers to the people but in the OT the temple or house of God always refereed to the building. So there is no correlation

Prax, I agree, the church is the "Christians gathering". Where does that leave us in the N.T. as far as the comments I posted on #14-pg.2 IYO?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by shag

Thanks for posting Stephen.

With that in mind, How do you feel about songs like: "Let us go into the house of the Lord". (and many more, from O.T. psalms). Compared to N.T. scripture?

And comments like . "Invite someone to come to God's house today" or, "Welcome to God's house, where anything can happen".

Doesn't that subconciencously send a message that you gotta be at the church building to see the "anything that can happen" (miracles etc)(especially when its said a lot)? And leave us perhaps a little weaker in faith, when it comes to us operating in the "anything happening" outside the building? (like praying miracles with someone at a public setting outside of the church building) Not to mention where does the building being so often referred to as the "house of God" line up with N.T. scripture like these:

Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood,....

Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us,.....

Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, .....

Thanks again for commenting on the subject.

I think they are only saying it is the house of God because it is where the entire church meets.

[shag]

But I never hear anything about "US" being the House of God", or " God's House" like N.T. scriptures say. Always the "building" in which we gather is "God's house". Maybe I'm just parting too many hairs hey?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by shag

But I never hear anything about "US" being the House of God", or " God's House" like N.T. scriptures say. Always the "building" in which we gather is "God's house". Maybe I'm just parting too many hairs hey?

I hear lots about our bodies being the temple of God or the house of God.