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07-24-2008, 09:33 PM
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Re: Martin Luther on Christian Baptism: IT SAVES!!
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Luther was very inconsistent at times. He was very bombastic and had some quirks he never worked out.
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He had this special affection for the Jews too ya know....
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Re: Martin Luther on Christian Baptism: IT SAVES!!
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He had this special affection for the Jews too ya know....
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A big man with big mistakes......
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07-24-2008, 09:37 PM
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Re: Martin Luther on Christian Baptism: IT SAVES!!
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Besides, unless Martin Luther is an, "One God, Apostolic, Tongue-talkin', holy roller, born again, Heaven-bound, believer in the liberating power of Jesus name", he is a FALSE PROPHET.
Bro Epley would not need to fall back on a FALSE PROPHET to back him up.
Using this FALSE PROPHET to back your opinion on what the Bible states is the same as using witch craft to validate one's holy magic hair doctrine.
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Thanks 1399, you're helping me make a point there with those words -- probably unintentionally.
My apostolic doctrine has never rested on what Martin Luther said.
And you'll be hard-pressed to find ANY "3-stepper" doctrinal writings that rely on Martin Luther's position to back up their beliefs.
On the other hand...
MANY, MANY one steppers, (Pentecostal, Protestant, Evangelical, etc) have fallen back on Martin Luther's words [when it suited them] to support their doctrine.
So, in reference to your earlier point, we can ask the question: what side of the issue (1-stepper or 3-stepper?) continually refers to the writings of Martin Luther [the false prophet] to support their doctrine? I think the answer is clear.
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07-24-2008, 09:59 PM
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Re: Martin Luther on Christian Baptism: IT SAVES!!
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Thanks 1399, you're helping me make a point there with those words -- probably unintentionally.
My apostolic doctrine has never rested on what Martin Luther said.
And you'll be hard-pressed to find ANY "3-stepper" doctrinal writings that rely on Martin Luther's position to back up their beliefs.
On the other hand...
MANY, MANY one steppers, (Pentecostal, Protestant, Evangelical, etc) have fallen back on Martin Luther's words [when it suited them] to support their doctrine.
So, in reference to your earlier point, we can ask the question: what side of the issue (1-stepper or 3-stepper?) continually refers to the writings of Martin Luther [the false prophet] to support their doctrine? I think the answer is clear.
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yikes! foiled again! 
that wasn't my intention at all. I was trying to draw to attention to the fact that it would be very inconsistent for a "three stepper" to try to quote Luther to support his supposition when Luther clearly is not Apostolic, in the sense that we are familiar with.
I wouldn't seriously call Luther a FALSE PROPHET, but I know many others who would.
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07-24-2008, 10:07 PM
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Re: Martin Luther on Christian Baptism: IT SAVES!!
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yikes! foiled again!
that wasn't my intention at all. I was trying to draw to attention to the fact that it would be very inconsistent for a "three stepper" to try to quote Luther to support his supposition when Luther clearly is not Apostolic, in the sense that we are familiar with.
I wouldn't seriously call Luther a FALSE PROPHET, but I know many others who would. |
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07-24-2008, 10:17 PM
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Re: Martin Luther on Christian Baptism: IT SAVES!!
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"Three-steppers" say they believe we are saved by faith. But it isn't what they practice.
They usually have a performance mind set that starts with their insistence that one must speak in tongues in order to verify their salvation.
That's not saved by faith-- that's saved because one spoke in tongues.
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07-24-2008, 10:24 PM
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Re: Martin Luther on Christian Baptism: IT SAVES!!
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Luther was very inconsistent at times. He was very bombastic and had some quirks he never worked out.
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Are you distancing yourself from the Great Luther?
He WAS a racist, no?
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07-24-2008, 10:28 PM
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Re: Martin Luther on Christian Baptism: IT SAVES!!
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Are you distancing yourself from the Great Luther?
He WAS a racist, no?
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God used an grossly imperfect man.
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07-24-2008, 10:38 PM
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Re: Martin Luther on Christian Baptism: IT SAVES!!
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God used an grossly imperfect man.
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I hope he continues to use me in the future.
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07-24-2008, 10:41 PM
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Re: Martin Luther on Christian Baptism: IT SAVES!!
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I hope he continues to use me in the future.
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I resemble that remark.
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