Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

What does Paul mean by "defile the temple"?

What is your interpretation?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

You don't think smoking defiles your body?

Here are my thoughts. I don't smoke (and never have) because it IS bad for you, an 'unwise' use of your money (just like gambling!), and disrespectful of the people around you. That LAST point may be the one thing that smoking has going for it to make it worthy of being singled out as a sin.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Put more plainly, is it possible for a person who smokes/uses tobacco products to truly be a Christian? Is it possible for that person to be saved while still smoking/chewing/dipping? Why or why not?

Is there a smoking section in heaven??

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Sure. So does too much soda, overeating, caffeine, processed sugar, etc.

Here's one for you - if a person is a diabetic, and their doctor has told them they need to lose weight or they'll die prematurely, and they continue to eat themselves sick, are they defiling their body?

Should they pray for healing?

What do you think, Michael? Do the scriptures mean what they say? Our body is the temple of God. If any man defile the body, him will God destroy. What does that mean to you?


I'm not trying to be harsh. I have my own vices that I fight against. So those verses reprove me as well.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Is there a smoking section in heaven??

Nor is there a McDonald's Playland.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

What is your interpretation?

Here's Strongs: to corrupt, to destroy
in the opinion of the Jews, the temple was corrupted or "destroyed" when anyone defiled or in the slightest degree damaged anything in it, or if its guardians neglected their duties
to lead away a Christian church from that state of knowledge and holiness in which it ought to abide
to be destroyed, to perish
in an ethical sense, to corrupt, deprave

[gulfcoastbrother]

I tell you what amazes me is the big, fat UPC preachers that get up and preach against smoking but over eat themselves to death. I think they take that scripture about gluttony out of the Bible.

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[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

What do you think, Michael? Do the scriptures mean what they say? Our body is the temple of God. If any man defile the body, him will God destroy. What does that mean to you?


I'm not trying to be harsh. I have my own vices that I fight against. So those verses reprove me as well.

Do they reprove you, or destroy you?

That's my point.......

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Here's Strongs: to corrupt, to destroy
in the opinion of the Jews, the temple was corrupted or "destroyed" when anyone defiled or in the slightest degree damaged anything in it, or if its guardians neglected their duties
to lead away a Christian church from that state of knowledge and holiness in which it ought to abide
to be destroyed, to perish
in an ethical sense, to corrupt, deprave

I'm not arguing that point, I guess my question to you is this - is it ONLY tobacco that defiles our bodies?