Teaching To Speak In Tongues

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I have often heard the complaint that certain groups (usually Charismatic) teach people how to speak in tongues. Have you seen this? What is involved?

I think it can be intentional but often I think it is accidental.

I see a lot of times even in Pentecost a "believer" telling another seeker "just do it, just let it out" and then start speaking in tongues in that persons ear. If someone is in a suggestive state of mind they might be lead to believe they need to repeat what that person just said or try. I even see people supposedly filled going "hallelalalala lalalalalalalalalalala" just say it, just let it out. I think every Pentecostal church should take serious inventory in this area and teach better alter techniques.

Had an evangelist come and ask me about another brother if he had the Holy Ghost yet. I said that I think so but he said he got it in another church (one on the charismatics ones you were talking of) and that when he prays for others to receive the Spirit the above is what this person does....

Well the evangelist said to me almost verbatim that it does not matter how they get it as long as they get it... I was blown away and deeply saddened. There is a lot of performance emphasis on our ranks. If someone did not get the Holy Ghost for the first time we don't feel too hot. If someone is seeking we HAVE to have them get it right now and I fear that we are so primed to have something happen...anything...that even someone that did not really speak in tongues we will believe they did if someone shouts "He got it" and the slightest twinge of the lips. We expect miracle after miracle and I fear that we are so performance minded that we get in a Benny Hinn mentality where if bodies are hitting the floor because we pushed their forehead back, that that means something in the Spirit just happened when in reality it might have been our flesh.

The only true way to that kind of stuff...the real stuff...is hungry prayer and fasting and then having faith in a service. As facilitators our job is to teach them HOW to worship. How to seek after God with their heart...not to get them to let tongues out.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

had a preacher doing a revival for my church years ago that i had to tell not to put his finger in someones mouth to make there tongue move, but not lately, i told him not to do it again, and obviously didnt have him back, lol, dt

Oh gosh, that too. Don't get me started on the guys that wave their fingers infront of someone's mouth as if they are doing a spiritual operation to get that tongue to move. Or the guy that rubs his finger up and down someone's throat....

Then there are the back rubbers....as if that seeker is about to puke their guts out and need our comfort. If you come and rub my back Im gonna have a hard time focusing on God

[Glenda B]

We once had a visiting evangelist who spoke of a denomination of people using these words ( See My Tie, Tie My Tie ) over and over so as you could not understand what they were really saying after repeating that over and over.

" Praise God folks, He has now got the Holy Ghost." Thus convincing the one seeking that they had been filled.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I heard a pastor recently tell a kid 'lalalalalala..say that......lalalalala'.

He later reported that she'd received the Holy Ghost. I was floored.

I think this is near criminal in the Kingdom of God. However I might suggest that some are perhaps sincere though sincerely wrong in believing that by doing something like that they can make someone's faith rise and really receive the Spirit. That is still wrong but what if they don't receive it then and they believe they got the real deal with nothing happened at all? They might think we are all nuts like they told us and are all faking tongues.

[DividedThigh]

yep it really happened, back rubbers seen that , or the one on each side one saying hold on the other saying let go, lol,dt

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

There is also a SS teacher in this church that does that. I saw her not long ago praying with a child, in his face going 'lalalalalalalalalalalala' and later reported that the boy received the Holy Ghost because she heard him do the same thing. The boy is 8 and has no clue what happened.

Really pathetic.

I'm serious. We need an international consensus and movement to fix this. I wonder how many ex-pentecostals never got the real deal

[POWERUP]

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Say it real fast and you want go out and buy a new bike.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by HADDOCK

some of this stuff is one of the problems I have with some of the Holy Ghost Rallies that have become such a hot item

Me too and again the problem is we are performance oriented. We can HAVE such a thing but it does not take a technique IMO it takes a genuine move of the Spirit and perhaps with good technique on how to get people that don't know better to worship God...

BTW I wonder how much the Gentiles, except Cornelius perhaps, worshiped...the bible just says the Spirit fell while Peter was speaking...not while they were worshiping

[HADDOCK]

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[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I heard a pastor recently tell a kid 'lalalalalala..say that......lalalalala'.

He later reported that she'd received the Holy Ghost. I was floored.

I sat in a front bench and watched an ALJC preacher do this to a young girl. She was so confused because she did not believe she had received the Holy Ghost, and he kept telling her she had.