Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit. - Page 29

berkeley · #**281** 09-28-2010, 06:02 PM

I am against gay exorcism. That can cause much more psychological damage. I know a person who is demon possessed today because of his homosexuality. But, most are probably not possessed, especially those seeking deliverance.

Mr. Smith · #**282** 09-28-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkley

I hate homosexuality. Hate it. It ruins lives and takes people to hell, wotever hell is. I wish the church would deal with it effectively. I had a pastor that believes that there is no redemption available to homosexuals. Strange.

The best efforts I've seen are the attempts to cast out the devil. I say, "Best" not saying it was good, but just saying that was the best strategy they could come up with.

But no redemption? Yikes. I guess the cross was limited.

coadie · #**283** 09-28-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkley

I am against gay exorcism. That can cause much more psychological damage. I know a person who is demon possessed today because of his homosexuality. But, most are probably not possessed, especially those seeking deliverance.

This is why many can't deal with attending some churches.

Mr. Smith · #**284** 09-28-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie

30 people. 1.5% of the population is gay. 1.5% of 30 is .45 gays in a population of 30. Math shoots down that claim from a probabliity standpoint. What percent go to church? That knocks out even more. a smaller % of gays go to church because of several factors. One is churches stand against it. The next issue is that gays migrate to the cities. so we see less than 1% of the population except in concentrated metro markets is gay.
Your math says you are wrong. Smith seems to make stuff up. The Kinsey reports have been rejected because they used dirty sampling methodologies.

Horsefeathers. No reputable group has ever come up with that number.

Mr. Smith · #**285** 09-28-2010, 06:19 PM

The Janus Report of 1993 found that 9% of males and 5% of females had had homosexual experiences "more than just occasionally."

coadie · #**286** 09-28-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Horsefeathers. No reputable group has ever come up with that number.

More claims and no proof Smith.
You read far too much from the gay apologists.

First of all, homosexuality is based on lies. It's root is dishonesty.

It makes foundational foundational dishonest claims
1 They are born that way
2 God made me that way
3 They can't change
4 attempts to change are dangerous

Honest Christians avoid gay self serving apologetics. I will admit the gay sector of the behavioral science field has very little research because the topic is potlitically incorrect and the topics are taboos.\

D. Wright · #**287** 09-28-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie

30 people. 1.5% of the population is gay. 1.5% of 30 is .45 gays in a population of 30. Math shoots down that claim from a probabliity standpoint. What percent go to church? That knocks out even more. a smaller % of gays go to church because of several factors. One is churches stand against it. The next issue is that gays migrate to the cities. so we see less than 1% of the population except in concentrated metro markets is gay.
Your math says you are wrong. Smith seems to make stuff up. The Kinsey reports have been rejected because they used dirty sampling methodologies.

Using your own word....more claims no proof.

coadie · #**288** 09-28-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

The Janus Report of 1993 found that 9% of males and 5% of females had had homosexual experiences "more than just occasionally."

The 2000 U.S. Census Bureau found that homosexual couples constitute less than 1% of American households. The Family Research Report says "around 2-3% of men, and 2% of women, are homosexual or bisexual." The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force estimates three to eight percent of both sexes. So who's right -- what percentage of the population is homosexual?

Janus did a horrible mail order survey. Number 1 it wasn't random and the response rate in itself is coupled with a high error rate. Even the sample size was far to small.