Do you think Two Church services a month is enough?

[John Atkinson]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

If one thinks that the ONLY reason they should go to church is for their own needs and only for when they need it....there is something very wrong with their view of what it means to be a part of the body of Christ to begin with

Most excellent point. Because each member of the body contributes, And sometimes, just being there is a signifigant contribution.


oh, prax, foil hat only works if it is hardwired to earth ground. beware of lightning. could wreck your day.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by John Atkinson

Most excellent point. Because each member of the body contributes, And sometimes, just being there is a signifigant contribution.


oh, prax, foil hat only works if it is hardwired to earth ground. beware of lightning. could wreck your day.

lol...will an anti static strap work?

[John Atkinson]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

lol...will an anti static strap work?

only if you are wearing conductive shoes. still.... lightning...

Originally Posted by John Atkinson

Yes, only Jesus can save.


CLUE: he uses THE CHURCH!

initially through the preaching of the Gospel.

And then people grow in grace as they gather with the church and are edified and hear exortation, reproof and rebuke. All done decently and in order in THE CHURCH.


Anyone attempting to serve God by himself is serving a philosophical illusion.

God ordained the church, Christ's body.

If you are your own little island, serving your concept of God without the body? You are lost and desperately need finding,

But be of good cheer, Jesus came to seek and save that which is lost.

I don't buy this I know of many people who don't step foot in the church who have a very godly and strong, prayerful walk with God. The church needs God, not the other way around, nor does God need their four wall, He does move beyond them. Besides most people I know who were in the organization are now divorced or really messed up, due to the fact they never really had a walk with God, just the man made church~ Jesus did come to saved that which was lost, so if one is saved why must they keep going and going back to the doctor to fix what Jesus has fixed! Unless you've never really been fixed to begin with~

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

If one thinks that the ONLY reason they should go to church is for their own needs and only for when they need it....there is something very wrong with their view of what it means to be a part of the body of Christ to begin with

Bump for Twinkie

[John Atkinson]

Originally Posted by CupCake

I don't buy this I know of many people who don't step foot in the church who have a very godly and strong, prayerful walk with God. The church needs God, not the other way around, nor does God need their four wall, He does move beyond them. Besides most people I know who were in the organization are now divorced or really messed up, due to the fact they never really had a walk with God, just the man made church~ Jesus did come to saved that which was lost, so if one is saved why must they keep going and going back to the doctor to fix what Jesus has fixed! Unless you've never really been fixed to begin with~

nice opinion. Too bad for you, you don't have a single supporting scripture.

Well, gotta go to work. See ya later cupcake....

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by CupCake

I don't buy this I know of many people who don't step foot in the church who have a very godly and strong, prayerful walk with God. The church needs God, not the other way around, nor does God need their four wall, He does move beyond them. Besides most people I know who were in the organization are now divorced or really messed up, due to the fact they never really had a walk with God, just the man made church~ Jesus did come to saved that which was lost, so if one is saved why must they keep going and going back to the doctor to fix what Jesus has fixed! Unless you've never really been fixed to begin with~

Maybe you should try reading the Bible and see God's opinion of the church it certainly does not mirror yours.

[rrford]

Originally Posted by CupCake

I don't buy this I know of many people who don't step foot in the church who have a very godly and strong, prayerful walk with God. The church needs God, not the other way around, nor does God need their four wall, He does move beyond them. Besides most people I know who were in the organization are now divorced or really messed up, due to the fact they never really had a walk with God, just the man made church~ Jesus did come to saved that which was lost, so if one is saved why must they keep going and going back to the doctor to fix what Jesus has fixed! Unless you've never really been fixed to begin with~

I know some that even went off into witchcraft.

JK, JK. Lighten up and at least make posts that can be believed.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

If one thinks that the ONLY reason they should go to church is for their own needs and only for when they need it....there is something very wrong with their view of what it means to be a part of the body of Christ to begin with

Actually Praxeas, you have hit on a very good point. A point which to me showcases the entire problem with the church. They are so focused on their building funds and programs they are not meeting the needs of the community around them. it's like they are so focused on the "church" (the organization, the building and all the stuff associated with it) and building their own kingdom that Jesus and his kingdom gets pushed aside.

Now, I know I sound critical. But I myself was guilty of that kind of attitude for a long time. In fact, this thread itself showed me that I am REALLY good at sitting around and talking about the problem, but not very good at finding a solution. And I finally realized that I need to BE the solution. I can't continue to go on and complain about what is wrong with the church and how the church isn't doing what I think Jesus wants it to do. No. I need to go out and myself do what Jesus is asking.

You were all right. Sitting at home is accomplishing nothing. So I need to find someway to go out and be Jesus to the poor, needy, hungry and lost in my community. And if I need to do it alone, then so be it.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Actually Praxeas, you have hit on a very good point. A point which to me showcases the entire problem with the church. They are so focused on their building funds and programs they are not meeting the needs of the community around them. it's like they are so focused on the "church" (the organization, the building and all the stuff associated with it) and building their own kingdom that Jesus and his kingdom gets pushed aside.

Now, I know I sound critical. But I myself was guilty of that kind of attitude for a long time. In fact, this thread itself showed me that I am REALLY good at sitting around and talking about the problem, but not very good at finding a solution. And I finally realized that I need to BE the solution. I can't continue to go on and complain about what is wrong with the church and how the church isn't doing what I think Jesus wants it to do. No. I need to go out and myself do what Jesus is asking.

You were all right. Sitting at home is accomplishing nothing. So I need to find someway to go out and be Jesus to the poor, needy, hungry and lost in my community. And if I need to do it alone, then so be it.

What would be YOUR suggestions on what the church should be doing????