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08-04-2015, 08:48 AM
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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 it might certainly be viewed that way, i will admit. Or, it might be realized that Joe opened the conversation, in a vein that can only be interpreted as "judgement."
"Just consider me equal to Paul, as i instruct you about some tittle, which i will equate with incest."
so you have chosen the area where you might most disagree, and have ignored all the other areas where you would agree. So do not be deceived. Yes, the world truly has gone bonkers, and it should not be surprising why. |
Interesting, could you clarify (I hope I don't regret asking) but what exactly are you trying to say with the above bolded text?
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08-04-2015, 08:50 AM
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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you gotta know your government just loves this, right? satan cannot fight without enemies.
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You mean the forum is a government plot to keep us separated? 
Therefore your teaching is what will bring us closer together to be able to understand what the government is doing to us?
Care to expound on this?
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08-04-2015, 08:53 AM
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Shazeep, your reasoning is like this:
1) The bible says sin sends people to hell.
2) So we tell people if they sin they are lost.
3) We are therefore judgmental.
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wadr, that describes your reasoning, not mine. mine is
1) the Bible say the Spirit is all you need
2) It also say that if you rely on an earthly intercessor you will be deceived, one reason being that it will always be in their best interests to dwell on your sins
3) therefore, live a forgiven existence.
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08-04-2015, 08:55 AM
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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wadr, that describes your reasoning, not mine. mine is
1) the Bible say the Spirit is all you need
2) It also say that if you rely on an earthly intercessor you will be deceived, one reason being that it will always be in their best interests to dwell on your sins
3) therefore, live a forgiven existence.
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How about using some scriptures with your list?
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08-04-2015, 08:59 AM
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Paul was turning individuals over to Satan because they were detouring saints away from the Message of Jesus Christ. I thought you believe the Bible in context? So, how can you "believe" something which is contradicted by the Quran, and the Quran is contradicted by the Hadiths?
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simple. By refusing to focus on that part, and instead seeking the kingdom of God in them, which is also amply demonstrated. Why grab a strange dog by the ears? Do we not have enough of our own contradictions? If you seek trouble, that is a custom-made way to find it, imo
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08-04-2015, 09:04 AM
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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simple. By refusing to focus on that part, and instead seeking the kingdom of God in them, which is also amply demonstrated.
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What is "that"?
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Why grab a strange dog by the ears? Do we not have enough of our own contradictions?
If you seek trouble, that is a custom-made way to find it, imo
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Do what?
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Wait! Shazeep, the Quran points out who is a sinner.
The Hadiths go even into more details on WHO IS LOST?
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can we stick with the Bible? I will tell you that from day 1, i read those verses as applying to "bad people." it was only very recently that i was shown to apply those to myself, and do my best to apply the "good" ones, that i had been applying to myself, to others.
That is just my experience; and it certainly wasn't pleasant at first. Do what you like, by all means--no one is stopping you, and i believe you will be forgiven for any sins if you are earnest. Consequences are another thing tho.
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08-04-2015, 09:09 AM
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Interesting, could you clarify (I hope I don't regret asking) but what exactly are you trying to say with the above bolded text?
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i am suggesting that the image below is truer than you would want to believe, and you may very well be extremely sorry you asked the question. The correct answer is "C," of course. Whether that was always true, or just recently true, and/or not a completely accurate rep, but only somewhat or mostly true, is up to an individual to decide; but regardless of one's decision, they will be held accountable, so pick wisely. Is what I'm saying.
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08-04-2015, 09:23 AM
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
i mean let's admit if you talk to anyone long enough, even your spouse, you are going to find something to disagree with. We avoid certain subjects with our friends for a good reason. Why seek differences with potential enemies? So you can sell them more guns?
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08-04-2015, 09:24 AM
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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can we stick with the Bible? I will tell you that from day 1, i read those verses as applying to "bad people." it was only very recently that i was shown to apply those to myself, and do my best to apply the "good" ones, that i had been applying to myself, to others.
That is just my experience; and it certainly wasn't pleasant at first. Do what you like, by all means--no one is stopping you, and i believe you will be forgiven for any sins if you are earnest. Consequences are another thing tho.
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Wait, you said Muslims are saved, so if they are saved and Paul rebuked those who taught another Gospel, and called those who detoured the saints anathema, then you are teaching a contradiction. Muslims are lost.
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