Of course I could have been "offkey"! I am a mere fallible human! And your God wouldn't grant this fallible human's request for some reason -- and I'm sure it was a very good reason -- and he won't even tell me where I went wrong! I don't think he has told my folks, either, when their prayers for my brother's healing of cancer failed, and those of many other family member's and friends'. There must have been thousands of prayers (and at least one "word form the Lord" that said he would be healed), and I'm not exaggerating. Were every one of them "offkey"? Did we not get what we asked for because we asked amiss? EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US?
I am very sorry for your hurt and pain in this. I know what it is like to watch a love one succumb to cancer.
I don't believe that praying for healing is asking amiss. I also don't believe that because your brother was not healed, that you did anything wrong. And if anyone told you either of these things, making your loss worse, they were very wrong to do so and shame on them!
I am very sorry for your hurt and pain in this. I know what it is like to watch a love one succumb to cancer.
I don't believe that praying for healing is asking amiss. I also don't believe that because your brother was not healed, that you did anything wrong. And if anyone told you either of these things, making your loss worse, they were very wrong to do so and shame on them!
Thanks, Reader.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Of course I could have been "offkey"! I am a mere fallible human! And your God wouldn't grant this fallible human's request for some reason -- and I'm sure it was a very good reason -- and he won't even tell me where I went wrong! I don't think he has told my folks, either, when their prayers for my brother's healing of cancer failed, and those of many other family member's and friends'. There must have been thousands of prayers (and at least one "word form the Lord" that said he would be healed), and I'm not exaggerating. Were every one of them "offkey"? Did we not get what we asked for because we asked amiss? EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US?
Sorry you went through this, Timmy. I think your questions are valid ones. I can't say I have the answer to all of them, but you have every right to ask them.
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
And I'm not struggling against God. (Monty's "LOL" duly noted. )
But by the most technical definition of "atheist", the prefix "a" meaning "not", well, I'm not a theist, so, there ya go. I don't apply the term to myself, though, as a commonly understood definition, maybe the most common, is someone who says there is no God and "knows" () it. And that's not me.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
And I'm not struggling against God. (Monty's "LOL" duly noted. )
But by the most technical definition of "atheist", the prefix "a" meaning "not", well, I'm not a theist, so, there ya go. I don't apply the term to myself, though, as a commonly understood definition, maybe the most common, is someone who says there is no God and "knows" () it. And that's not me.
Ah, you are consistent then. I can appreciate that.
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
We'll find out, won't we? I never claimed we won't find out who is right. Go ahead and abandon faith. Not me. And I will continue to be fearful with it and always ask God to correct me if required. I have faith He will.
Where did I say that I have abandoned Faith? I have Faith, every single day. I just don't believe in YOUR kind of Faith.
Your Faith wants me to continue in the hopeless realm of accepting things that never happen. This not only discourages countless people, but shows how Faith is abused and misrepresented by Religion(s).
For 36 years, I have been in more prayer lines than I can remember, with preachers yelling and screaming for people to come and get their healing. I was even a pastor for almost 20 years, laying hands on the sick, hoping for the healing that was supposed to happen; yet, I have never observed 1 healing. Not even 1!
People would stand and shout that they were healed, but I watched these same people a few days or weeks later, go right back to square one; no healing.
Shall we talk about Prophecies? It is so easy to say something when the emotional clock is ticking, especially during an Apostolic service where people ride the back of their feelings. But when the chips were down, these same Prophecies went by the wayside, never to be really talked about again. People just acted like they never heard it, or they made excuses of why the Prophecies didn't happen.
I remember when a Foreign Missionary came to our large Church, boasting of all the great healings that took place in Africa while he was the pastor there. Later on, when we had moved away from that Church, my new pastor, who has been in the UPCI for 70 years now, told me that those stories were all made up, and that this man was no longer in the UPCI.
I danced! I shouted! I was elated that God could grow new legs on a young boy who was born with no legs! My Faith went through the roof, and I told everyone about this man's stories! Then I find out, it was nothing but LIES!
Mike, that's the Faith you can have, but I no longer tell and give people outlandish ideas that leave them sick after they are prayed for, where they think they are still ill because they lack Faith! This is total manipulation and the tactic of Religions fury when we question why something didn't happen, when it was supposed to happen, "IF", we have Faith!
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