Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

You are as decieved about that as you are about your stupid non tithing doctrine. What kind of a trash can did you guys climb out of?

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

I would suggest that you buy a Strong's Concordance and look up every reference to Tithe or Tithes. Tithe was in the Old Testament and in the New Testament.
Robbers, thieves, liars, stingy, selfish tightwads hate the word Tithe because it requires something of them.
It IS in the Bible and if you would just take time to look it up there is plenty of "scriptural proof of the doctrine."
PROVE to us that the word TITHE is not in the New Testament.
You have the burden of proof on you as you brought up the subject and made the challenge.
Show us in the Word of God where God said there is No Tithe and that we are Not To Tithe. Show us the scriptures that say the Tithe is done aways with and is no longer valid.
I want the scripture and verse where it says - Thou Shalt Not Tithe or that Tithing is only an Old Testament practice.
Come on now - Your so intelligent that you think the word TITHE is not in the New Testament - Look it up and cut and paste every time the word TITHE or TITHES was used in the New Testament. Maybe you have an Anti-Tithe Bible! LOL
You guys are a total joke.

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Well...You said it was not there and it is there and didn't JESUS CHRIST use the word TITHE? LOL Go research TITHE in the NT and let us know how many times the word is used!
You clowns need to go join the rodeo or a circus with your goofy act!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

WRONG AGAIN! Try six times and here you go - with your WRONG interpretation. Why do you guys insist on teaching this ANTI-TITHE false doctrine when you can't even count the times the word is in the New Testament. LOL Par for the course!
You say Tithe is not in the New Testament then you say it is and that It was not YOU that said it and that it was only in there 3 times (as far as you can remember) and then you give us your interpretation. What makes YOU an expert on this?
We do not want your interpretation or your commentary on Tithe. We just want BIBLE. Just show us in the HOLY BIBLE that TITHE is not in there and we will adjust our theology.
Could you let us know if you actually graduated from High School and what college, university or theological seminary you graduated from and what degrees you earned.
Thank you!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Another one bites the dust! False doctrine shall not prevail! The Truth will make you free!

These guys made a challenge and then cannot stand it that they were cornered with TRUTH and now they cower down and accuse me of having a bad spirit because their deception is uncovered! I will ALWAYS attack false doctrine when it is coming from the mouth of a supposed "Apostolic" that knows better.
Anyone with any sense at all knows that Tithe is a Bible Doctrine!
I have NEVER missed a Tithe in my life and NOBODY is going to rob me of my blessing and convince me to stop tithing! The TITHE is HOLY unto the Lord!
TRUTH WINS AGAIN! Praise The Lord!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Shag, You are a day late and a dollar short. You guys have lost your little challenge.
You cannot and will not show any scripture at all that says the Tithe is abolished or Thou Shalt Not Tithe or that what ever you guys preach is true.
The Tithe is in the Old Testament and the New Testament and you have not one shred of evidence that it was done away with.
The TITHE is HOLY unto the Lord! Always has been, Always will be!

As the old song says:
I know the Bible is right and somebody's wrong,
I know the Bible is right and somebody's wrong!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Losers never win and winners never lose!
No need to cry and "suffer condemnation" over your defeat - Let God set you free from false doctrine! Our God is a mighty deliverer and if you will begin to obey the Word of God and return your Tithe unto the Lord - I know He will bless you!

No reason to call me names just because you lost your challenge and cannot produce one Scripture in the Bible to back up your false doctrine.
Also know that I certainly did not ASK or invite you to sit under my ministry! False doctrine and deception has no place here!
We use the BIBLE for a road map here!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

You guys just cannot stand losing your little challenge! LOL
Call all the names you want but you still lose!
Sling all the mud you want - you still lose!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

I know it burns you guys up to lose your little challenge.
Not ONE scripture could any of you give to back up your ANTI-TITHE deception!
Don't worry, We TITHERS are still tithing and being blessed!
I hear testimonies weekly of faithful Tithers that God has blessed and promoted!

Jason, You lost Bo - give it up! LOL

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Doesn't it amaze you how LOW people will stoop to degrade others when their heretical doctrine is proven to be deceitful and wrong?
You guys made the challenge and then lost. Don't be a spoiled sport and call names and act like a baby - Take it like a man and start TITHING!

TITHERS ALWAYS WIN! LOL

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

So glad you decided to MAN UP and obey the Word of God. Some on here are acting like spoiled babies because their deceitful doctrine was proven to be wrong.

TITHERS ALWAYS WIN! :-)

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

TITHERS ALWAYS WIN!
Sling all the mud you want! Call all the names you want!
In the end - you could not win your challenge and YOU LOSE!
Non-Tithers Always LOSE!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Timmy, Please give it up! You guys lost! You made the challenge and you lost!
I know that is difficult for you but every possible scenario has been discussed on this subject on here and in the end - you COULD NOT produce ONE scripture to support your ANTI-TITHE false doctrine - NOT ONE!
You need to accept the truth and just live by it!

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

ROFL!!!!!!!!! Can't STAND it when you lose - can you?
Hurts to lose don't it?
You guys will never stop but you know you lose!

Every time you touch a dime - think about that slippery slope!

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

ROFL!!!! You are a Hoot - and YOU LOSE! LOL

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Well bless you guys heart. Aguila has gone to preaching and pontificating and trying to convince & console himself that he is right when he knows he cannot produce ONE scripture to justify or substantiate his Anti-tithe false doctrine.
Preach on sir - YOUR STILL WRONG and YOU STILL LOSE!

Timmy, The deal is - after 22 pages of proof that you guys have no clue what you are talking about and that TITHERS are blessed and highly favored - you want to keep all this up!
Maybe you can convince one weak minded pitiful stingy and selfish mental midget to believe your deception but for those us that TITHE and READ THE WORD OF GOD- Your argument is lame brained!
The fact is - You guys threw it out and were proven wrong time and time again.
You guys need to just accept it! YOU LOSE!

God bless all the TITHERS that support the Work of The Kingdom of God! We willingly return the TITHE back to God for it is HOLY unto the Lord!
I am so thankful for the opportunity to raise my envelope every Sunday and quote the Tithe Confession as a Blessed & Highly Favored Believer!

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Well, bless you guys little hearts.
I am out the door to go minister, (make fun of that will you) while you sit and write and search for that one that you can deceive and make a robber out of!
You still lose - several sore losers on here!

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

ROFL!!! You guys will stop at nothing with this deception will you?
How crazy can you get?
How LOW will you stoop to spread this deception?

In 55 years of church and living for God and 39 years of ministry, I have never heard anyone testify that TITHING MADE THEM POOR!!!! What a bald face LIE!

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

You poor guys! You lose and then you back pedal! LOL You make these crazy statements then when someone calls you on it and you realize how absurd it is - you change it - Oh, I didn't say it, didn't mean it that way, yada, yada, yada!

We have come to expect this kind of rhetoric from Non-Tithers!
Why do you guys despise Tithers? Did a Tither hurt you or hit you or did a TITHE envelope or Tithe basket somehow injure you? ROFL!
You guys get more hilarious by the day with your changing stories!
I mean this, well, I didn't mean that, I said this, but I meant that, I said paid, but I meant give, I said Tithe but I mean something else............. I make a challenge but when I lose - I just write a bunch of gobble de gook to make it seem like I know what I am talking about. ROFL!
Face it - The FACT IS - YOU LOSE! You lose by not TITHING and then YOU LOSE by trying to lead people into your ANTI-TITHE false doctrine!

When you lay your head down tonight - know that YOU LOST your challenge and the WORD OF GOD still stands and that.....TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Brag all you want about robbing God, One day you will regret every thin dime you steal out of that dollar!

Thieves and robbers usually do accumulate quite a few things - but in the end, when they are caught - they lose it all!
TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Definition of THIEF: one that steals especially stealthily or secretly; also : one who commits theft or larceny

John 10:10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. (NKJV)

Proverbs 6: 30 Men do not despise a thief if he steals to satisfy himself when he is hungry; 31 But if he is found out, he must restore seven times [what he stole]; he must give the whole substance of his house.(AMP)

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

You guys have lost and you know it.The fallacy of your deception has been proven over and over and it now we are just like throwing pearls in a hogs pen.
You guys challenged everyone on this forum with your little ANTI-TITHE platform and now you cannot give ONE scripture - NOT ONE that says anything about the TITHE being abolished or THOU SHALT NOT TITHE or that the TITHE was done away with or DON'T TITHE! NOT ONE scripture to substantiate your absurd claims.
Then you get on here and sling mud and insult people because they are not as gullible and deceived as you! It is pure stupidity & I for one am sick of your insulting my intelligence!
You are WRONG - DEAD WRONG! You lost your challenge and now your mad about it and you want to keep it all going and keep challenging us to engage us just to get your deception out.
Why would Aquila ask about someone losing his salvation by not tithing when he goes to a "Southern Baptist Church" that its core doctrine is UNCONDITIONAL ETERNAL SECURITY? You guys are just WAY OFF and you know it.
You have come way too late to convince people with brains of your Once Saved, Always Saved, Calvanistic and NON-TITHE deceptions!

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Okay. Got cha.

Shouldn't you be out mowing the lawn?

[ThePastorsCoach]

I am bowing out before I get thrown out - ban me if you want .... but in the end....
You ANTI-TITHERS are WRONG and you LOST your little challenge!
I remain a TITHER and I remain Blessed and Highly Favored of the Lord!

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

You guys have lost and you know it.The fallacy of your deception has been proven over and over and it now we are just like throwing pearls in a hogs pen.
You guys challenged everyone on this forum with your little ANTI-TITHE platform and now you cannot give ONE scripture - NOT ONE that says anything about the TITHE being abolished or THOU SHALT NOT TITHE or that the TITHE was done away with or DON'T TITHE! NOT ONE scripture to substantiate your absurd claims.
Then you get on here and sling mud and insult people because they are not as gullible and deceived as you! It is pure stupidity & I for one am sick of your insulting my intelligence!
You are WRONG - DEAD WRONG! You lost your challenge and now your mad about it and you want to keep it all going and keep challenging us to engage us just to get your deception out.
Why would Aquila ask about someone losing his salvation by not tithing when he goes to a "Southern Baptist Church" that its core doctrine is UNCONDITIONAL ETERNAL SECURITY? You guys are just WAY OFF and you know it.
You have come way too late to convince people with brains of your Once Saved, Always Saved, Calvanistic and NON-TITHE deceptions!

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Love you AB. But simply put, after much study and prayer, I disagree with your conclusions. Primarily, with regards to this thread, the notion that one will loose their salvation if they don't tithe.

[HRea]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Well, that's the issue. There's nor NT tithing madated within the NT. I do believe that one must give cheerfully (whatever one gives -money included), as Paul states.

I see it a different way. As the churches were born and established, the Gospel of Jesus Christ was preached, and the focus was on the knowledge of Jesus Christ. As believers grew spiritually, Paul began to deal with the "finer points" of Christian Conduct and Service. Again, as believers were able to bear the teaching.

In 1 Corinthians 16:1-2, Paul establishes (with Churches in Corinth, Galatia, etc) a way of giving that was based on "as God hath prospered", which is consistence with Abraham and Jacobs way of honor God with tithing.

I disagree with the interpretation of Proverbs 3:9-10 being "under Levitical Law", the entire chapter is discussing one's relationship with God, not obedience to the Law.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

I am bowing out before I get thrown out - ban me if you want .... but in the end....
You ANTI-TITHERS are WRONG and you LOST your little challenge!
I remain a TITHER and I remain Blessed and Highly Favored of the Lord!

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

If I have any vote, I'd like to plead that AB NOT be banned.

We've all been heated with each other at one point or another. I didn't take anything personal from AB.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

I am bowing out before I get thrown out - ban me if you want .... but in the end....
You ANTI-TITHERS are WRONG and you LOST your little challenge!
I remain a TITHER and I remain Blessed and Highly Favored of the Lord!

TITHERS ARE WINNERS and NON-TITHERS are LOSERS!

Surprised a little you haven't been banned already with all the arrogant name calling.

[HRea]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Yes, I commend HRea.

HRea, doesn't Jacob's statement contradict tithing? Jacob's attitude was "if you bless me, then I'll give."

Genesis 28:20, ....If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment .....

I wish you hadn't added "if you bless me". Tithing, after the way of Abraham and Jacob, is honoring God for what He has given us, substance and increase. I suppose material blessings could be included in that. If God doesn't prosper you, then there is no tithe to be given.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by HRea

I see it a different way. As the churches were born and established, the Gospel of Jesus Christ was preached, and the focus was on the knowledge of Jesus Christ. As believers grew spiritually, Paul began to deal with the "finer points" of Christian Conduct and Service. Again, as believers were able to bear the teaching.

In 1 Corinthians 16:1-2, Paul establishes (with Churches in Corinth, Galatia, etc) a way of giving that was based on "as God hath prospered", which is consistence with Abraham and Jacobs way of honor God with tithing.

I disagree with the interpretation of Proverbs 3:9-10 being "under Levitical Law", the entire chapter is discussing one's relationship with God, not obedience to the Law.

While I do believe a believer should given generously as God has prospered them, I don't believe that ties directly to the tithe. For gentile believers it would have to be spelled out rather clearly that they were expected to give 10% per the OT.

With regards to Scripture it's important to note that even the Gospels depict events that took place under the Law. Jesus even advocated that a healed lepper present the purification offering at the temple. Not to mention many other things pertaining to the Law. Christ fulfilled the Law, nailed it to the cross, and set us free to partake in His nature... a holiness that comes by faith and is far higher than any law, rule, or regulation can bring us.

[Cindy]

Do y'all want to finish a discussion or debate banning? This is starting to seem like a political thread. Stop the finger pointing, name calling, and blame game.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Aquila

While I do believe a believer should given generously as God has prospered them, I don't believe that ties directly to the tithe. For gentile believers it would have to be spelled out rather clearly that they were expected to give 10% per the OT.

With regards to Scripture it's important to note that even the Gospels depict events that took place under the Law. Jesus even advocated that a healed lepper present the purification offering at the temple. Not to mention many other things pertaining to the Law. Christ fulfilled the Law, nailed it to the cross, and set us free to partake in His nature... a holiness that comes by faith and is far higher than any law, rule, or regulation can aspire to.

So, why did Jesus tell the leper to present a purification offering?