Texas Tornado Over Pastor with TV

[tamor]

Originally Posted by Rhymis

I hope they televise this compromiser's trial - so that others may fear.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Rhymis

I hope they televise this compromiser's trial - so that others may fear.

Is this a "death to the infidel" cry? Off with his head!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Why do you think it is the /ministry's/ right/responsibility to define it? I think that the scripture teaches born again believers to "work out their own salvation with fear and trembling".

Paul calls saints to grow to maturity and what may be a weight or hinderance to one may not be so to another. To give all the control to the /ministry/ takes away the control of God on individual's lives, and also interferes with the Biblical hierarchy for the home...which is the husband's mandated responsibility.

Blessings, Rhoni

[/I]

I know it may be a strange concept to some but leaders lead and pastors pastor. I am not Laodicean pastor where people leads the pastor instead of the pastor leading the flock.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Our manual also mentions any type of Hollywood or commercial film as seen on television or at the theater. So it would be covered on whatever I watched it on.

Does it cover home-made porn?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I remember, back in the day, that the young ladies in our church were not able to wear maxi dresses [even though they were more modest than the knee length styles] until after the Pastor's daughter did so.

I also remember not being allowed to go to King's Island or Cedar point until the Pastor's son talked his father into it and took us all for the first time as a group.

There was absolutely no divorce allowed or preached even as far as the 'innocent party' doctrine until after the Pastor's daughter got a divorce and married the most elligible evangelist.

I think that the ministry takes too much responsibility on themselves which actually sets themselves up for a fall from the pedestal.

Just my opinion as seen through the veil of my past experience.

Blessings, Rhoni

Every preacher is not a hypocrite governed by his family. Sorry you had a preacher like that.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Look, there are ways to answer the tv question honestly.

For instance, what if the preachers wife owns the home where the tv is?
What if she owns a tv in his home?

The question is "do you have a television set in your home"?

A person could answer no and be within the confines of honesty. See, that's the trouble with rules - there are always loopholes.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Our application says do you WATCH television? That settles the issue.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

No it doesn't.

What if you watch the same programming on the internet, or buy the DVD's?

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

What if you have a 92 inch screen that you have rented from the Rent-a-Center? You could honestly say you did not own a television.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

abc.com, cbs.com, fox.con, nbc.com, in2tv.com


Shall I go on?

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Hilarious!

What if you had a feed into a projector screen? I know of men who do this.
It is not a television!

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Yes it most certainly does OUR application (not the UPC) defintely says WATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Stay with me Bro. I know this is hard for a UC to grasp. When you watch a computer screen that is playing hollywood programming, it is not TV!

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Our manual also mentions any type of Hollywood or commercial film as seen on television or at the theater. So it would be covered on whatever I watched it on.

What about home-made porn?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

What about home-made porn?

Now you have went to absolute foolishness. I will not take my time to answer such a STUPID remark. That is beneath you and you are much smarter than this.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

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I know it may be a strange concept to some but leaders lead and pastors pastor. I am not Laodicean pastor where people leads the pastor instead of the pastor leading the flock.

I think it is within the scope of a Pastor's responsibility to teach concepts and set general boundaries without defining them for each individual. I do not think I have a Loadician attitude but I will pray about it.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Now you have went to absolute foolishness. I will not take my time to answer such a STUPID remark. That is beneath you and you are much smarter than this.

It's only stupid because your rules apparently don't cover it.

So home-made porn is not covered by the rules but television is? I have the best rule in the world for you. How about "set no evil thing" before me?

Bro, the word is enough. It is so Pharasee like to want to rule everyone to death. The simple truth is that if a guy in your fellowship wants to watch home-made porn it is within your rules, but tv is evil. That is STUPID.

[Rhymis]

Anything that glows with a hellish blue glow at night should be exterminated.