Apostolic Feminists

[ForeverBlessed]

Originally Posted by Esther

I think you either take that scripture literally and women do not speak in church period, which I think we know it doesn't mean that. Or understand what was happening and WHY it was given.

Most know that women did not attend the assembly before Jesus opened that door to them. They didn't understand what was happening and was yelling across the assembly, "Hey, Joe, what is he doing now?", (paraphased)

That is why he said for them to learn at home from their own husbands.

It never meant in this scripture that a women could not teach, speak, sing, or anything else.

If we want to go down the road of picking and choosing, then why do women sing? Why do they teach sunday school? That requires speaking.

I agree with you.

I also think that we need to read 1 Cor 11 (hair) and realize just how much was cultural there as well.

Originally Posted by Felicity

Out of the heart *and attitude* the mouth speaks. I don't like women making those kind of general putdown remarks. It's disrespectful for one thing. Untrue for another.

On the other hand, I don't like men making jokes about women that are putdowns either.

Dittos.

For example, neither my wife nor I ever cared for the obligatory wife putdowns from the pulpits.

[Sister Alvear]

I agree...Pentecostal preachers in some circles I do not care to be around I feel almost dirty coming out of a service when they talk about women...I hear enough of that from the Branhamites in Brazil...
I think godly women look for MANLY men and not some "man" that runs his mouth in a holy pulpit...
People are so hungry for God in this hour...Just last night a doctor lady told me she was so hungry for God...She did not look like me, dress like me but sat weeping all during a powerful service...
We have the answer for the world and what it needs but it would seem we stay happy fussing among ourselves many times....I refuse to get caught up in endless debates...they are like endless shopping sprees...

[LaGirl]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Do you believe they exist?

My wife, who is very active in District Ladies ministry, tells me that more and more she sees women speakers who's mannerisms and demeanor seem to be quite masculine. They scream, pound the pulpit, line everybody out on standards and such.

Recently, I had a chance to watch a lady preacher from TBN. Her first name was Paula (I can't remember the last name). She exhibited what my wife told me she keeps seeing at some of our "ladies" conferences.

It was revolting. I can't stand to see male preachers who priss around like fairies, and I can't stand to see women preachers/speakers who stomp around like lumberjacks.
Does feminism have a place in the Apostolic movement?

i have to agree with ya

[Sister Alvear]

While it is true that Deborah rode with the men...it is also true that God commanded cursing upon those that did NOT HELP DEBORAH...

[Sister Alvear]

Just got a revelation for a sermon: "The blessing of riding with Deborah"...ha....

[Sister Alvear]

Or maybe the title of another sermon: When the woman says, "Thus saith the Lord.." Think I will use Hulah on that one... ha....

[Sister Alvear]

OR maybe....when a woman saved an entire race....Esther would be the Bible reading....

[Sister Alvear]

How many nights are revivals these days???? Maybe I could hold a revival...That's 3 texts already....
Let me see how about this one: When God sends Moses, Aaron and Miram?
That makes four....how many nights should the revival be???

[Sister Alvear]

Oh yes that favorite scripture that says, sin entered the world by one man... that will preach...........ha....
Well, friends I am only being funny...However if you need any help I could help you get a title while I am in this mindset of titles...lol