Many Bible scholars believe that scriptures means there are no procedures set forth for contenentious people. Others believe that scripture means there is no debate for standards. The Bible I use cross references 1 Cor 7:17 and 1 Cor 10:32 which indicates the scripture could mean to get along with each other accpet each other, and/or don't trip each other up.
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By the way.What is your opinion on this verse?
1Co 11:16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
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Coonskinner,thanks for putting so much thought into my question.But i dont put a lot of faith in the NIV or NLT.Do you agree with their interpretation of this verse?
NIV John 3:
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[f] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
NLT John 3:
16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
I don't see much of a difference in those verses and what the KJV says.
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The Bible I use cross references 1 Cor 7:17 and 1 Cor 10:32 which indicates the scripture could mean to get along with each other accpet each other, and/or don't trip each other up.
I would believe this to be true.Paul was addressing customs and traditions that were causing division in the church.The same customs and traditions are causing division today.
For those who believe that shame=sin, read the following verses:
1Co 11:6
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
1Co 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
"Shame" in those verses use the same Greek word meaning 'shame, base, dishonourable', but not sinful or anything of the sort.
Is it still considered shameful for women to speak in our churches today? Paul clearly said it was a shame for women to speak in church, but I have yet to attend any church where women are to be silent as soon as they walk in the door.
Funny that we will make sin out of one verse but disregard another that uses the same identical word for 'shame'.
And some of you wonder why there is contention and disbelief.........
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That makes sense since he ripped the jewish christians for trying to enforce Jewish customs on the Galatians.
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I would believe this to be true.Paul was addressing customs and traditions that were causing division in the church.The same customs and traditions are causing division today.
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The controversy centers around whether Paul is referencing the custom, or the act of contentiousness.
Different translations place the emphasis in different places.
1 Cor. 11:16 (NIV)
If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice--nor do the churches of God.
1 Cor. 11:16 (Living)
But if anyone wants to argue about this, all I can say is that we never teach anything else than this--that a woman should wear a covering when prophesying or praying publicly in the church, and all the churches feel the same way about it.
So, is Paul referencing the custom, or contentiousness?
My opinion is:
1 Cor. 11:16 (Living)
But if anyone wants to argue about this, all I can say is that we never teach anything else than this--that a woman should wear a covering when prophesying or praying publicly in the church, and all the churches feel the same way about it.
If there were new converts in the Corinthian church, who had converted from the pagan ways where the female temple prostitutes were shorn, Paul admonishes then to be covered in worship, so as not to confuse the other new converts.
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