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Pressing-On · #**251** 06-01-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

This is a stupid thread.

There are probaby under 10 people on here that are actually non or ex-Pentecostal.

What a small view of Pentecostalism if you think this board is made up of a majority of ex-Pentecostal people.

Well, I'm 25 pages behind, so just ignore my ignorance of what this thread is about.

Your observation isn't ignorant. I believe the same thing. I think it's just more one-stepper than three. That's all.

Michael Phelps · #**252** 06-01-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Your observation isn't ignorant. I believe the same thing. I think it's just more one-stepper than three. That's all.

This has been my posture all along........we all THINK or PERCEIVE this board and each thread differently.

The one-steppers think this is a three-stepper dominated forum, and they feel attacked.

The three-steppers think this is a one-stepper dominated forum and they feel attacked.

The liberals think this is a conservative dominated forum, and they feel outnumbered.

The conservatives feel this is a liberal dominated forum, and they feel outnumbered.

And blah, blah, blah.

And each will post about another, pointing out certain posts and accusing them of hyperbole and hysteria.

And, yet, if you go back thru some of that very posters previous posts, you'll find numerous examples of the very transgressions of which they are accusing others.

Come on, folks!

Whatever happened to discussing a thread individually, making your opinion known, and then moving on to another discussion without all the personal attacks???????

Am I living in dream world to think that we could achieve that?

Pressing-On · #**253** 06-01-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

This has been my posture all along........we all THINK or PERCEIVE this board and each thread differently.

The one-steppers think this is a three-stepper dominated forum, and they feel attacked.

The three-steppers think this is a one-stepper dominated forum and they feel attacked.

The liberals think this is a conservative dominated forum, and they feel outnumbered.

The conservatives feel this is a liberal dominated forum, and they feel outnumbered.

And blah, blah, blah.

And each will post about another, pointing out certain posts and accusing them of hyperbole and hysteria.

And, yet, if you go back thru some of that very posters previous posts, you'll find numerous examples of the very transgressions of which they are accusing others.

Come on, folks!

Whatever happened to discussing a thread individually, making your opinion known, and then moving on to another discussion without all the personal attacks???????

Am I living in dream world to think that we could achieve that?

Yes.

Michael Phelps · #**254** 06-01-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Yes.

And by the way, PO, I wasn't picking on you, I just used your post as a springboard.

We all have our perceptions, and trying to change anyone's perception is like trying to reverse the earth's rotation - myself included, lol.

Praxeas · #**255** 06-01-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by timlan2057

Now HERE is where we disagree vehemently.

This forum was founded with the idea the discussion was to be rigged and anything that the gang in charge didn't like would be censored under "preacher bashing."

That "doctrinal" statement sounds like the original FCF and we KNOW this forum wasn't anything like that one.

This is not true. Renda might have to chime in here. The Doctrinal statement stuff happened AFTER the forum started with the "complaints" of many of the forums Conservatives to officially make this an "Apostolic" board. It was also always the ideal that it be a diverse group that comes here and dialogues...that means the non conservatives. At some point they it seems they realized they did not like the idea of anyone arguing against their "truth" and they did not relish the idea of making counter arguments. I agree that perhaps...PERHAPS some of their REAL ideals for the forum were not vocalized or perhaps they just never realized how much they could not tolerate it. But what happened was an evolution in process. The ideal in the beginning was one forum for everyone of Apostolic background....regardless of whether they were one steppers or three and whether they were full blown standards or not. That was the original intention

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Now HERE is where I think you're living in a dream world.

They "abandoned the place" when they realized that trying to rig the board and promote their agenda with censorhip and heavy-handed moderating wouldn't work.

Here I am inclined to agree with you.

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Orthodoxy wasn't "trashed in a crude manner" any more here than on FCF.

Again I think you may be right. FCF was sort of a no bars hold forum. And I remember them posting an article by Robert Sabin arguing against the evidence doctrine.

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People who couldn't meet the arguments got frustrated and LABELED it trashing.

Exactly. However it is my feelings that because many just don't care for debate like this that such topics should be out of the main fellowship area. This board was originally meant primarily as a place of fellowship. Not everyone has the stomach for that kind of stuff. However what because absurd to me was that they even complained about doctrines being argued on a separate area made just for debate. They could not tolerate the fact that this board was allowing discussion at all....they did not have to go to that area to read them. It was out of sight and out of mind...but they HAD to go looking for it so they can have something to complain about.

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AND this "crude manner" stuff applied to the cons moreso than the reprobates and heathens.

I see it as being an equal opportunity offender. The libs and cons were both equally offensive. They had different methods for doing so which might make it hard for some to distinguish, but they were both guilty

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Dan posts a bit more than some.

Wait till he gets married...his posts will be less and less :-)

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But to blame him for "singlehandedly" destroying a forum and running off a bunch of good people who otherwise would have kissed the liberals on the cheek every morning is laughable, absurd, comical and the biggest myth I've ever heard in over four years of posting and reading pentecostal-themed message boards.

DA was banned permanently. This did not change a thing. He was only allowed back after certain owners decided to abandon ship. They no longer had a say in the matter, though we "heard" of their complaints after the fact...

Nobody has to leave. They can ignore Dan....if a topic is too much for the fellowship area we can move it to the debate area...out of sight and out of mind....but you know that never mattered. All that mattered was that it was being discussed here and that goes against their thinking...the same sort of thinking that brought in the famed Affirmation Statement.

rgcraig · #**256** 06-01-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Whatever happened to discussing a thread individually, making your opinion known, and then moving on to another discussion without all the personal attacks???????

Am I living in dream world to think that we could achieve that?

Wish we could get back to just that!

Why is everyone so defensive?

Michael Phelps · #**257** 06-01-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Wish we could get back to just that!

Why is everyone so defensive?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?

Just kidding, lol.

Pressing-On · #**258** 06-01-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

And by the way, PO, I wasn't picking on you, I just used your post as a springboard.

We all have our perceptions, and trying to change anyone's perception is like trying to reverse the earth's rotation - myself included, lol.

Yes you were!!!