Missouri Molestation Case - Page 25

HADDOCK · #**241** 08-27-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Oh, sorry. Well, it seemed like that, since you said, "Suppose a UPC pastor ...."

I think I did word it that way -- but it is a real situation.

ILG · #**242** 08-27-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Oh Good. Now we have nothing to argue about. You could've strung me along a bit. Made it fun.

Sure!

But no, I would not give him one night. But I would do it in such a fashion as to be compassionate. Not TURN YOURSELF IN OR I WILL!!! But "You have admitted your error and that is great. Now, to truly make it right you need to do the rest of it and make a phone call." And then if he doesn't I would.

HADDOCK · #**243** 08-27-2007, 01:33 PM

This situation really took some interesting turns... during the investigation and knowing an indictment was coming, the child agency would not allow the man and the children in the same home. The pastor allowed him to move into the evangelistic quarters in the church building, which is where the man was actually arrested.

In the criminal community it was questioned "Is this how Pentecostals handle these affairs?" -- almost to insinuate they were above the law and took things into their own hands -- the forgive and forget idea.

The pastor also refused to allow the victim to go on certain youth trips --??

The man did counseling but eventually entered a "best interest" plea, which basically meant, I'm not saying I'm guilty, but I know this is in my best interest because if I go to trial it could be a worse outcome! The plea came at the last minute prior to the trial and a subpoena was issued for the pastor to testify.

RandyWayne · #**244** 08-27-2007, 01:42 PM

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The pastor also refused to allow the victim to go on certain youth trips --??

I wonder how long the pastor was still "pastor" over the victim and his family? I hope to God it ended then and there.

BrotherEastman · #**245** 08-27-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FRINGE_NUTTER

I am sorry to hear this, but nothing surprises me anymore. I hope he doesn't get backed up by the good ole boy network.

I won't back him up!

BrotherEastman · #**246** 08-27-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

he was released on 10K bond?

hang the judge.

Exactly! hang the judge!

HADDOCK · #**247** 08-27-2007, 01:50 PM

Actually the "victim" ended up going to live with a grandparent, and yes, the parents and the other children are still under this pastor.

The victim was made to be the villan here and treated as such.

RandyWayne · #**248** 08-27-2007, 01:52 PM

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Actually the "victim" ended up going to live with a grandparent, and yes, the parents and the other children are still under this pastor.

This same pastor has very legalistic teachings

I'm willing to bet that the FEAR of God for disobeying a pastor has been deeply entrenched in them and they are too frightened to leave.

HADDOCK · #**249** 08-27-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I'm willing to bet that the FEAR of God for disobeying a pastor has been deeply entrenched in them and they are too frightened to leave.

The family were actually fairly new in the church, probably less than 7-10 years if that much even. But, yes.....

bishoph · #**250** 08-27-2007, 01:59 PM

Unfortunately I have had to deal with this issue twice during my pastoral career. I can tell you from my experience, that one should never try to hide this kind of sin. The perpetrator must be reported. The pastor in most states can be subpoenaed, however, he/she is exempt (in most states) from disclosing any information given to him/her under privileged information protection. The law is for the lawless and when a person commits this type of offense they have removed themselves from under the rule of grace. (This does not mean they cannot be restored, but they must face the penalty of their actions.)