Debunking a 9-11 myth

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The myth is that the plane that hit the tower could not have caused it to collapse.

Conspiracy folks argue the metal in the tower could not have melted enough to lose integrity.

I personally remember this being on the news. A tanker truck carrying fuel over turned and caught on fire. The fire burned hot long enough that the over pass collapsed

Here are several videos

You can go to youtube and find other videos

Then some guys tested an i beam with fuel to see if it would lose integrity

This next video, at the 20 min mark gives the experiment with the I beam

An overpass is constructed like a 110 stories sky scraper?

When this overpass burned down, did they take all the debris and remove them. Sell them off to the lowest bidder, so the material could not be inspected?

We are 20 years after this tragedy. The families of those who died still won't accept stories about fuel tankers burning down troll bridges. I grew up with the Twin Towers in Manhattan. I had family members who worked on and worked in the buildings prior to the attacks. We are now living in a time where we are totally sure that this country is circling the drain. Where a United States President has just threatened his people that “We've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin,” Biden said Thursday. “And your refusal has cost all of us.” The clock is ticking, and three more years with Biden and Kamala? Listen I don't believe for one minute that things would be different if Trump was president, Ronald Regan, or George Washington hugging Trump. The die is cast, we are the ones who are caught in the crossfire. The only thing we can do is pray that who are is trying to kill and control us is exposed by God.

[Evang.Benincasa]

20 years later and we still don't have the truth.

[Evang.Benincasa]

https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/08...ersary-events/

[james34]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

sorry too small to read

[james34]

Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand


in the hour we live , when your opinion runs parallel with the world you should be concerned.
They accept everything, except the bible version and this is their position on about any subject these days.
It is ironic at the time of "9/11" that laws had to be put in affect to save us from the (unseen) enemy. The government just needed the public to want to be protected(sound familiar) (can you say Covid-19) .... shiboleth, well liberals may have a hard time framing it truthfully, ( the agenda attatched to it that is). No surprise , this is the governments M.O. Frame the chinese or mother nature, or Muslims. The telling is in what rises out of the ashes, Who gains the most in the end and who loses. The government ( with high satisfaction ratings) more gun control, ability to detain indefinately just for suspicion without being charged, law abiding citizens began to be put on terrorist list as high risks, . The government proves this is their heartbeat, (never let a crisis go to waste) and the people become suspects who will even sell each other out , just to keep that dangerous monster that is out there from getting them. You know( see something , Say Something) lololol its just too laughable if it werent true. But what is sad is you have reasonably intelligent people that still trust their gubbimont!

What did they call it, oh yeah DHS /Department of Home blah blah .....

It began operations in 2003, formed as a result of the Homeland Security Act of 2002, enacted in response to the 9/11 attacks. With more than 240,000 employees,[1] DHS is the third-largest Cabinet department, after the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs.[4] Homeland security policy is coordinated at the White House by the Homeland Security Council. Other agencies with significant homeland security responsibilities include the Departments of Health and Human Services, Justice, and Energy.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by james34

Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand


in the hour we live , when your opinion runs parallel with the world you should be concerned.
They accept everything, except the bible version and this is their position on about any subject these days.
It is ironic at the time of "9/11" that laws had to be put in affect to save us from the (unseen) enemy. The government just needed the public to want to be protected(sound familiar) (can you say Covid-19) .... shiboleth, well liberals may have a hard time framing it truthfully, ( the agenda attatched to it that is). No surprise , this is the governments M.O. Frame the chinese or mother nature, or Muslims. The telling is in what rises out of the ashes, Who gains the most in the end and who loses. The government ( with high satisfaction ratings) more gun control, ability to detain indefinately just for suspicion without being charged, law abiding citizens began to be put on terrorist list as high risks, . The government proves this is their heartbeat, (never let a crisis go to waste) and the people become suspects who will even sell each other out , just to keep that dangerous monster that is out there from getting them. You know( see something , Say Something) lololol its just too laughable if it werent true. But what is sad is you have reasonably intelligent people that still trust their gubbimont!

What did they call it, oh yeah DHS /Department of Home blah blah .....

It began operations in 2003, formed as a result of the Homeland Security Act of 2002, enacted in response to the 9/11 attacks. With more than 240,000 employees,[1] DHS is the third-largest Cabinet department, after the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs.[4] Homeland security policy is coordinated at the White House by the Homeland Security Council. Other agencies with significant homeland security responsibilities include the Departments of Health and Human Services, Justice, and Energy.

Its the opposite of Israel making the Golden Calf while Moses was on the Mount of God. They said "These are the gods which have brought you out of Egypt."


But instead of misplaced accolades due to idolatry, the government takes judgement from God and instead of repenting, we blame the judgement on the scapegoat of the moment, completely missing the point and use Gods judgement and chastisement as an excuse to expand government authority. That will CERTAINLY appease the Lords wrath right?

[james34]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Its the opposite of Israel making the Golden Calf while Moses was on the Mount of God. They said "These are the gods which have brought you out of Egypt."


But instead of misplaced accolades due to idolatry, the government takes judgement from God and instead of repenting, we blame the judgement on the scapegoat of the moment, completely missing the point and use Gods judgement and chastisement as an excuse to expand government authority. That will CERTAINLY appease the Lords wrath right?

Not "WE", but the world. If the fearful give up freedom and reject Godliness, well , the fearful and unbelieving shall have their part in the lake of fire.

The righteous are in the know(they are led of the Holy Ghost), the word of God is even a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
The wicked think it strange that we run NOT with them to the same excess of rioting, whereas they like to riot in the daytime,(they are emboldened in their erroneous ways)

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

An overpass is constructed like a 110 stories sky scraper?

When this overpass burned down, did they take all the debris and remove them. Sell them off to the lowest bidder, so the material could not be inspected?

We are 20 years after this tragedy. The families of those who died still won't accept stories about fuel tankers burning down troll bridges. I grew up with the Twin Towers in Manhattan. I had family members who worked on and worked in the buildings prior to the attacks. We are now living in a time where we are totally sure that this country is circling the drain. Where a United States President has just threatened his people that “We've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin,” Biden said Thursday. “And your refusal has cost all of us.” The clock is ticking, and three more years with Biden and Kamala? Listen I don't believe for one minute that things would be different if Trump was president, Ronald Regan, or George Washington hugging Trump. The die is cast, we are the ones who are caught in the crossfire. The only thing we can do is pray that who are is trying to kill and control us is exposed by God.

The fire heated the metal enough for it to collapse.

A highrise has many times more weight pushing down on the fire weakened steel.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by james34

sorry too small to read

Use a step ladder

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The fire heated the metal enough for it to collapse.

A highrise has many times more weight pushing down on the fire weakened steel.

I’m not one for conspiracy theories, I can’t stand them anymore than the next person.

Yet, one has to wonder if those attacks on 9/11 was carried out by hijackers with box cutters under the mastermind of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed?

America is a corrupt country and has been for many years, maybe since the inception, (that may be for another time and place to discuss).

The Twin Towers were constructed of a steel frame that was able to withstand the winds at the height of 1368, and 1362 feet. The frame also went 70 feet below the surface and was built upon solid bedrock. Just to bring this to our understanding, those towers employed 50,000 people inside the building! Over 150,000 people used the twin tower subways EVERY day!

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The fire heated the metal enough for it to collapse.

I’m not trying to nitpick one word yet it’s important to understand it was not metal, it was steel. Steel will not begin to melt until 2500-2750 degrees Fahrenheit. When the planes hit the building and burst into flames (Jet Fuel), the temperature would only be around 1500 degrees fahrenheit, not anywhere close enough to begin the melting process. Eyewitness accounts said as they were running down the stairs they were hearing bombs going off at an even timeframe, as if it were systematically. The NYFD also agreed with those reports.

The first plane made impact at level 93-99 of WTC1 and the second plane made impact at level 75-83 on WTC2. In other words, WTC1 impact was “so great” that it total shattered floors from 92 all the way to the ground and 70 feet below?!? The same with WTC2 from 74th floor to ground, and then 70 feet below?!? If that doesn’t make your head scratch then maybe this will, all that destruction in 1 hour and 42 minutes!

There is more that I or others can write but search it out for your self.

Just understand that this country is not a godly country, never was, and never will be. There “GOD”, is not the GOD that we serve, for the god they serve is Gold, Oil, and Drugs. There are people in this country that are Godly, that serve and worship the one to true God.