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09-28-2010, 09:12 AM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.
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You have every right to object to it. I only brought my personal knowledge into it. Eddie Long happens to be a black brother. I have knowledge of this happening among my circles of influence. I shared my knowledge. You can object all you want, and you can claim insinuation etc. all you want, but I neither retract anything I stated, wasn't wrong in anything I stated, and don't feel anything I stated was out of line. I can't be anymore clear in what I repeatedly stated w/o guile or ill intent. I'll let my reputation speak for itself.
Secondly, YOU'RE to one who highlighted the race issue over and over and over by blowing a gasket when it, IMO, was unwarranted. You get the award for making it a race issue when the discussion would probably have simply gone on about the topic of this thread as it was intended. Well done!
I think you're having a hard time seeing around that "beam." But that's just my opinion and I could be dead wrong and I accept that. 
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It is obvious Smith shows a judgemental attitude towards your personal awareness.
I became aware of my whiteness yesterday. I learned "down low" was slang in the black community and had never been a part of my vocabuilary.
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09-28-2010, 09:20 AM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.
The term has never been a secret at all. There has been many discussions on Oprah and many other popular news show. There is an awareness of the term throughout the television world and the media in general.
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09-28-2010, 09:22 AM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.
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The term has never been a secret of all. There has been many discussion on Oprah and many other popular news show. There is an awareness of the term throughout the television world and the media in general.
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What is Oprah? If it is what I think it is, it isn't a "News show"
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09-28-2010, 11:03 AM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.
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What is Oprah? If it is what I think it is, it isn't a "News show"
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I would expect that comment from you Coadie. Since you feel the need to take that route, the fact is that the topic was discussed on her show and was featured on many news shows. So be abundantly blessed.
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09-28-2010, 11:07 AM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.
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I would expect that comment from you Coadie. Since you feel the need to take that route, the fact is that the topic was discussed on her show and was featured on many news shows. So be abundantly blessed.
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Yep - - you should have left out that "other" word and all would have been fine. Funny though, I knew exactly what you meant.
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09-28-2010, 01:31 PM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.
You know, isn't anyone bothered that married men in the ministry are getting their thrills from other men? Neither laity nor the ministry should be obviously and in the situations we are discussing it was not just one indescretion nor was it simply a matter of falling for another woman. Rather this is intentional and deliberate.
This isn't just a black issue, what's wrong with the church?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-28-2010, 01:35 PM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.
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You know, isn't anyone bothered that married men in the ministry are getting their thrills from other men? Neither laity nor the ministry should be obviously and in the situations we are discussing it was not just one indescretion nor was it simply a matter of falling for another woman. Rather this is intentional and deliberate.
This isn't just a black issue, what's wrong with the church?
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1 Tm 3
6Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
The little pride action preceded falling into reproach.
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09-28-2010, 01:39 PM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.
Well Im convinced there are different facets that lead to this sort of thing. In some cases it might be wealth and the personal worship, but this sort of stuff even happens in the smaller churches with less money, though the cult of personal worship might still be present
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-28-2010, 01:40 PM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.
Actually what would be good is if all these groups got together and looked at this and see what might be the problem and what might be the solution. The trouble is though the independent churches who submit to nobody
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-28-2010, 02:18 PM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
You know, isn't anyone bothered that married men in the ministry are getting their thrills from other men? Neither laity nor the ministry should be obviously and in the situations we are discussing it was not just one indescretion nor was it simply a matter of falling for another woman. Rather this is intentional and deliberate.
This isn't just a black issue, what's wrong with the church?
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guys have always played around with other guys, enjoyed one another, and furnished sexual pleasure for one another and it has been kept separate from the romance and/or marriage relationship
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