IT is the Holy Ghost!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Barb

I was just reading in Genesis where God was speaking to Abraham and the Scripture state, "And He said unto him, I am the LORD..." (15:7)

Also "AndHesaid unto Abram..." (15:13).

The Scriptures refer to God as 'He'...

The scriptures also call Spirit "it"...has anyone yet figured out these pronouns are useless for determining gender of non coporeal entities?

Are there male and female angels too?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I didn't read it. I think I have you on ignore. I think.

Yup, looks that way *Praxeas makes ugly faces at you just to make sure*

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by deseret

He had a beard.

scripture?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

How many inner beings do you have anyways?

As I pointed out already twice before...maybe three times, Greek scholars recognize that the masculine pronoun here modifies the masculine word comforter, the antecedent noun and not the neuter noun pneuma or Spirit.

Check again people and I think you will find NO pronouns are used for the word pneuma until Romans
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

BTW a quote by Bro Arnold who is also quoting Daniel Wallace, one of the best known biblical greek scholars and a trinitarian

Attention has also been drawn to the fact that the pronouns which follow are in the masculine. It has been claimed that because of this, the word must be a person. Now when such a claim is made, I must conclude that either the person who said it knows very little about the Greek language or they are not being fully honest with what they are saying. The rules of Greek grammar require that pronouns must agree with the nouns they represent in case, number and gender. Since the word logos (word) is masculine, its pronoun would of necessity be masculine! For example, the word church (ekklesia) is feminine. So the church is called a "she" in the Greek whenever a pronoun is used. No one would claim that this makes the church a person. This can also be seen where John later calls the comforter (parakletos) a "he." Commenting on this, Greek scholar Daniel Wallace makes this observation:

The use of ekeinos [he] here is frequently regarded by [Trinitarian] students of the NT to be an affirmation of the personality of the Spirit. . . . But this is erroneous. In all these Johannine passages, pneuma [spirit] is appositional to a masculine noun. The Gender of ekeinos thus has nothing to do with the natural gender of pneuma. The antecedent of ekeinos, in each case, is parakletos [comforter], not pneuma. . . . Thus, since parakletos is masculine, so is the pronoun. . . . Indeed, it is difficult to find any text in which pneuma is grammatically referred to with the masculine gender.1

You went into more detail, as you often do, and said the same thing that I did.



Are you sure you aren't SAB under another name?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by deseret

Tell me, where did He get the Y? It wasn't from Joseph.

He created it.

You all sound like you've spent too much time looking at the paintings in the Sistene chapel
Next you'll be arguing the Pope is the vicar of Christ

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Yup, looks that way *Praxeas makes ugly faces at you just to make sure*

My daddy always taught me to shoot things that are that ugly!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You went into more detail, as you often do, and said the same thing that I did.



Are you sure you aren't SAB under another name?

No I repeated myself to show that the author of John did NOT break the rules of greek grammar at all. The masculine refers to the antecedent and not to Spirit

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

My daddy always taught me to shoot things that are that ugly!

I hope youir house has no mirrors in them then

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Barb

What specifically makes a ship female..."She's a grand ship!!"

And until just a short time ago, hurricanes were referred to by females names...what say ye, Substance?!

Anthropomorphism. Literary devices. People the bible is full of things just like this.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I can't.

I'm eating a banana split!

<------ Female Characteristic??