What is the GOSPEL?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Pot, meet Kettle?

so, while you might briefly comfort yourself with this, note that i did not come here accusing anyone, in the manner of your little hobby, here, and when i do accuse, i am prepared with my Witness, ok, EB?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Esaias

You want the truth of 'what is my point'?

My point is that you have an unclean spirit coming out in your posts. Whether you invited it in, or it just somehow got in, I don't know. And exorcisms don't take place 'online' via the internet, either.

You are burning with the snake bite and yet you find that 'snake on a pole' rather objectionable to look at, meanwhile you are following behind yelling to all and sundry about a 'way of salvation'.

And it looks like the admins around here find it all an amusing sight. 'Let's watch that Pythoness girl go into another one of her conniptions, it'll be fascinating' or something, I guess?

I hope you find peace, Shaz. Seriously. You seem like you could use some.

fine, then bring me your Witness, and i will cross examine Her, and we will see, ok?

Meanwhile, i notice that you staunchly avoid my Witness,

In the beginning was the Bible, and the Bible was with God, and the Bible was God

as has every other son of a mother on this site, so far. Not. a. single. peep.
So you might as well clear that up while you are here, ok?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

but that is just an evasion, Mr B; i never disagreed with what you just said. i said that you have made the Word into the Book, and you cannot defend that with either.

No one made the book the word or vice versa. You always put words in our mouths. The message of the book is the word. So the word is in the book.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

No one made the book the word or vice versa. You always put words in our mouths. The message of the book is the word. So the word is in the book.

No, the Word is not in the Book, Mr B, sorry. That is impossible, to put the Word into a Book. It cannot be done, and i know this, this one thing, for a fact, ok. And yes, you have made the Book the Word, when someone says "let's go to the Word," you nod your head and pull out your Bible, do you not? I did, my whole life. I do not fault you for this, ok, even though you are a pastor. The ones who taught you were apostates, and criminals, though, as far as i am concerned. Murderers, and much worse than murderers, who only kill one at a time.

Because i learned from the same apostates that you learned from; it is how we do it, here in the land of the free. It is how it is done everywhere, now, i guess; i guess no one listens to the Spirit, in the Book, for those directions, or Paul, who avoided the yeast of the Apostles for 3 years. Those are there for the blind to see, later, i guess.

The message of the book is the word

this part is good, though, imo, yes. The Message of the Book is the Word.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

this part is good, though, imo, yes. The Message of the Book is the Word.

You play with words too much, and think everyone else thinks something bad when THEY write, but when YOU write the same thing in a slightly different form it is correct.

That is impossible, to put the Word into a Book. It cannot be done, and i know this, this one thing, for a fact, ok. And yes, you have made the Book the Word, when someone says "let's go to the Word," you nod your head and pull out your Bible

I take them to the book because, contradictor, the message of the book is the word.

lol

It's official you're a troller. If the message of the book is the word then I need to take people to the book to show them the message. lol

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

No one made the book the word or vice versa. You always put words in our mouths. The message of the book is the word. So the word is in the book.

Mike, you are still equivocating here, c'mon. When someone says "LET'S GET INTO THE WORD," WHAT DO YOU DO?

And wadr, no, the Word is not in the Book. The Word is talked about in the Book, It is discussed at some length in the Book, both OT and NT, so as to make it perfectly clear, that It is not the Book, and is not in the Book, anywhere, and by definition, of "Word," cannot be in a Book, and so that is where we are still at.
The Bible is not the Word, and the Word is not in the Bible. period. full stop.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You play with words too much, and think everyone else thinks something bad when THEY write, but when YOU write the same thing in a slightly different form it is correct.

actually, i am agreeing with your characterization here just to try and be agreeable; because the Message of the Book is the Word, true, but the Book is not only for that; It is also a Sword, that divides...although that may just be another function of the tension between Word and What It manifested, in this case the Book...but anyway, It is also an Instruction Manual, for personal growth...which might just also be a product of that same misunderstanding, dunno. See, you purposely used a wiggle-word there, Message,
so that you could
have your cake
and eat it, too,
just like apostates
everywhere do.

Originally Posted by mfblume

I take them to the book because, contradictor, the message of the book is the word.

yes, and this is, as i see now, ezackly why it was a mistake to even agree with you that far, because the Message is the Word, and is not in the Book, and, all you did here was evade the point again, wadr. You take them to the Book, because It is the Word to you, and you are just prevaricating some more, scribing stuff up to suit you. There is no message, Gospel, Good News, in the Book. Or, if you imagine there is, bring It here, so we can see.

Originally Posted by mfblume

lol

It's official you're a troller. If the message of the book is the word then I need to take people to the book to show them the message. lol

Right. That is absolutely false, and, as we can see, being "taken to the Book" is what led you to your definition of "the Word," right? Same as me. Only i found the real definition...in the Book. And no reason you cannot, either.

So, gigglegiggle, it is official, you are an apostate, and you still do not have Word, because i know where the Word is now, see, and you can't lie to me anymore, ok?
Do me a favor, and throw a rock whenever you call me a troll, wouldja? ty
Have a nice evening, pastor.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

Mike, you are still equivocating here, c'mon. When someone says "LET'S GET INTO THE WORD," WHAT DO YOU DO?

And wadr, no, the Word is not in the Book. The Word is talked about in the Book, It is discussed at some length in the Book, both OT and NT, so as to make it perfectly clear, that It is not the Book, and is not in the Book, anywhere, and by definition, of "Word," cannot be in a Book, and so that is where we are still at.
The Bible is not the Word, and the Word is not in the Bible. period. full stop.

The word is God's PLANS and PURPOSE -- His heart is manifested to us through that word. He put that in the book we call the bible.

When someone wants to the word I open the bible and show them what it says abut God speaking to men and saying certain things. Those things he said to them are written down. And the thoughts he wants us to think about and know are related to us in those pages. When the message gets in our hearts, we have found the word.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

actually, i am agreeing with your characterization here just to try and be agreeable; because the Message of the Book is the Word, true, but the Book is not only for that; It is also a Sword, that divides...although that may just be another function of the tension between Word and What It manifested, in this case the Book...but anyway, It is also an Instruction Manual, for personal growth...which might just also be a product of that same misunderstanding, dunno. See, you purposely used a wiggle-word there, Message,
so that you could
have your cake
and eat it, too,
just like apostates
everywhere do.
yes, and this is, as i see now, ezackly why it was a mistake to even agree with you that far, because the Message is the Word, and is not in the Book, and, all you did here was evade the point again, wadr. You take them to the Book, because It is the Word to you, and you are just prevaricating some more, scribing stuff up to suit you. There is no message, Gospel, Good News, in the Book. Or, if you imagine there is, bring It here, so we can see.

Right. That is absolutely false, and, as we can see, being "taken to the Book" is what led you to your definition of "the Word," right? Same as me. Only i found the real definition...in the Book. And no reason you cannot, either.

So, gigglegiggle, it is official, you are an apostate, and you still do not have Word, because i know where the Word is now, see, and you can't lie to me anymore, ok?
Do me a favor, and throw a rock whenever you call me a troll, wouldja? ty
Have a nice evening, pastor.

You've disagreed with the the word and are the farthest I've seen on this forum from the word. You're closed minded to anything you don't already think about the word. And your words about the cross and salvation by works proves it. You sir are reprobate. I've rarely ever said that to anyone, but you fit the box.

And several witnesses on this forum have agreed.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by shazeep

fine, then bring me your Witness, and i will cross examine Her, and we will see, ok?

Your cross-examining of a witness? Who set you up as the judge? What a mockery this is.

Originally Posted by shazeep

Meanwhile, i notice that you staunchly avoid my Witness,

In the beginning was the Bible, and the Bible was with God, and the Bible was God

as has every other son of a mother on this site, so far. Not. a. single. peep.
So you might as well clear that up while you are here, ok?

We have not avoided your "witness". You just don't like the witnesses, which is scripture and throw them out, ignore them, every time.

In fact, if God himself showed up as a witness, you still would not believe. Deception has clouded your mind and judgment, much as you think it hasn't.

Originally Posted by shazeep

Mike, you are still equivocating here, c'mon. When someone says "LET'S GET INTO THE WORD," WHAT DO YOU DO?

Why are you so hot about the Word? Is it pricking you? You can't understand the simple concept that the Word can take on more than one meaning. The Word is Jesus, and it is the Words of Jesus. This is our witness, and you don't like it, lol!

Originally Posted by shazeep

The Bible is not the Word, and the Word is not in the Bible. period. full stop.

Says you? Go preach this then. Somewhere else, preferably. City-data.com sounds like a great place for you to be.

Originally Posted by shazeep

Only i found the real definition...in the Book. And no reason you cannot, either.

The real definition, in the book you don't read and don't believe. Isn't that something.