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View Poll Results: Do you believe and/or teach that standards are heaven or hell issues?
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Absolutely. I believe and teach that standards are heaven or hell issues.
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I believe that standards should be followed, but they do not necessarily affect salvation.
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I do not believe standards are salvational, but I teach them in compliance with the organization.
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I do not believe or teach that standards are salvational.
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I teach that standards are matters of consecration, but are not salvational.
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04-19-2007, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by OGIA
From my perspective, you missed it as did a few others.
No, the scenario is not perfect and may never happen. But, the point is that the world does, in fact, recognize the difference between godly and not godly. They might use terms like "prudish" or "old fashioned" or "holier-than-thou", but they do recognize a difference.
I'll give you 100 people and put Beth Moore next to Sis. Nona Freeman and we'll see how many choose Sis. Freeman as they one they'd want to pray for them. What do you think the odds are that Ms. Moore would get more than a few who'd pick her?
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See, there's the problem...... YOU'LL GIVE.....you are speaking in your world terms. Your 100 people would pick Sis. Freeman because that's what they are comfortable with.
A random 100 people the choice could be 50/50.
You are the one arguing with yourself.
I think it's funny too that you go the the farthest extreme left you can to pick Tammy Faye - - laughable.
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04-19-2007, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
See, there's the problem......YOU'LL GIVE.....you are speaking in your world terms. Your 100 people would pick Sis. Freeman because that's what they are comfortable with.
A random 100 people the choice could be 50/50.
You are the one arguing with yourself.
I think it's funny too that you go the the farthest extreme left you can to pick Tammy Faye - - laughable.
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I know its been stated already, but just wanted to say again. If You ever see me in need of serious prayer, just know that I could care less what you look like or dress like........LET'S PRAY!
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04-19-2007, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
See, there's the problem......YOU'LL GIVE.....you are speaking in your world terms. Your 100 people would pick Sis. Freeman because that's what they are comfortable with.
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Man, what a twist you put on that one!!
Come on, Renda!! I don't even KNOW 100 people!!
How about this? I'll let YOU pick 100 people. Of course, I'd expect them to be as random as the ones I would have picked.
As is a favorite saying around these parts: Good grief!
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I think it's funny too that you go the the farest extreme left you can to pick Tammy Faye - - laughable.
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Yeah, that's a bit extreme, but so is your response above.
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04-19-2007, 08:30 AM
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Psalms 132:1
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
See, there's the problem......YOU'LL GIVE.....you are speaking in your world terms. Your 100 people would pick Sis. Freeman because that's what they are comfortable with.
A random 100 people the choice could be 50/50.
You are the one arguing with yourself.
I think it's funny too that you go the the farthest extreme left you can to pick Tammy Faye - - laughable.
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What's wrong with Tammy Faye?
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04-19-2007, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Paths
What's wrong with Tammy Faye?
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Elder, I could answer you a lot quicker if you asked what's "right" with her.
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- Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
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04-19-2007, 08:34 AM
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Psalms 132:1
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Originally Posted by OGIA
Elder, I could answer you a lot quicker if you asked what's "right" with her.
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I know.
Poor Tammy Faye is just a wonderful little abused lady (stretchhhhhhh) that was abused by her awful (correct) husband.
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04-19-2007, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by OGIA
Gotta love it when someone asks a question after asking what you mean who then proceeds to answer their own question when they could have saved a lot of typing by waiting for the answer, "No, that is not what I mean."
The scenario is about who would be chosen first in a situation where someone needs prayer and the person choosing had the option between someone who resembled Sis. Nona Freeman or someone who resembled.......oh, take your pick.......Tammy Faye Baker or Beth Moore or Stormy O'Martian or.......well, you get the picture.
Of course, the typical liberal spin has turned it into something different as seen by posts successive to yours.
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If you're trying to put Beth Moore in the same category as Tammy Faye, that shows how insulated you are in your Pentecostal world. There is no comparison between the two. I would love to have Beth Moore pray for me; she is not worldly in the least. She is an anointed teacher of the word who is reaching thousands of non-spirit filled people and stretching them to move into new places with God. She is reaching so many Baptists with the power of God that I would never criticize her. Does she understand everything? Of course not! But she is definitely being used by God.
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04-19-2007, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by OGIA
Man, what a twist you put on that one!!
Come on, Renda!! I don't even KNOW 100 people!!
How about this? I'll let YOU pick 100 people. Of course, I'd expect them to be as random as the ones I would have picked.
As is a favorite saying around these parts: Good grief!
Yeah, that's a bit extreme, but so is your response above.
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Just seeking a little balance here......
I'm sure you know a 100 people - - don't you go to church?
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04-19-2007, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Paths
What's wrong with Tammy Faye?
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She wears spiders on her eyes?
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04-19-2007, 09:18 AM
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Tammy Faye said she was so abused in her AG church where they did not believe in make up or women cutting their hair and had to wear dresses. But she got liberated. Who said she is not moderate?????????? I imagine she thinks she is?? Has anyone seen Jan in person??????????? I have she looked like a .................................................. .......... better not say but they come out at night.
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