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Old 06-22-2008, 10:44 PM
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Yes, he said we were ALL lost!


Where did you worship today?
We went to Cathedral of Pentecost in Ft Lauderdale this morning and enjoyed it very much. It obvoiusly is a progressive and growing church - very spirited and vibrant.

Bro Elms's B-I-L Daniel Hood preached. I think that means they married sisters. What was these ladies' maiden name, does anyone know?

We considered going to the assembly wher Bro Williams is pastor, but would have been late getting there. We also had a rather lengthy late afternoon service at Boston LobsterFest!
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:57 AM
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I had a couple questions for bobby if I had not been so late reading th thread. I knew of a Apostolic Church of the Lord Jesus Christ member from Philidephia, PA once... he later came into the UPC with his family.
Bobbys is not banned....he just can't post until he repents
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:00 AM
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Yes, and let me tell ya'll, yesterday, it was 113 degrees in
the city i was in. We are just coming out of a BAD heatwave!
I got heat exaustion the heat was just untolerable.
The air conditioning was pitiful - there were funeral fans going
everywhere.

You see, the Bishop can have on a $900 robe on and drive
a new lexus but no decent air conditioning ???? PRIORITIES!!
some in PAW got them type problems.
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:29 PM
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We went to Cathedral of Pentecost in Ft Lauderdale this morning and enjoyed it very much. It obvoiusly is a progressive and growing church - very spirited and vibrant.

Bro Elms's B-I-L Daniel Hood preached. I think that means they married sisters. What was these ladies' maiden name, does anyone know?

We considered going to the assembly wher Bro Williams is pastor, but would have been late getting there. We also had a rather lengthy late afternoon service at Boston LobsterFest!
Their maiden name is Hale. Billy Hale is their dad and pastors in Denver, CO. You may remember he had a heart attack a month or so ago. He was back in the pulpit the weekend before last.

...he is a good man indeed and I admire those Elms quite a bit. Some may have the tendency to keep tied to the apron strings hoping for a cushy appointment in a well established church. Not them, they stuggled tremendously and paid their dues when they didn't have to.

Can you tell me what caused you to say they were/are obviously progressive? That is NOT a word I would use to describe the ever so borderline ultraconservative Dannie Hood.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:29 PM
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That's too bad Bobby is gone... I came to the Truth through Gino Jenning's preaching (Gino Jennings is the guy TruthSeeker thought was Bobby's pastor in Philadelphia, but Bobby later called Gino a devil). It is too bad to see how far from Bishop Johnson's preaching the assembly in Philadelphia, under Bishop Omega's pastorate went. I definitely believe we'll see Johnson in Heaven, which makes him different from Branham. It really is too bad Bobby is gone, I would have liked to ask him a few questions... sure Bobby was offensive, but only sticks and stones break bones, and if he offended someone, they should have just ignored him, but AFF isn't a democracy and as for tolerance of others, this forum does go farther than most others.

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Old 06-23-2008, 03:41 PM
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On the topic of the PAW... the first Apostolic assembly that I ever went to was a PAW assembly in Orlando, FL. I was still in the AG, but I had been invited by a PAW minister and I went. I was vacationing during this time and went in a pair of shorts and a polo. I found the church service a bit strange in that everyone was "shockamooing" and having a wild time and that after two hours there was no preaching. The offering was a "hold-up" style where we weren't let go until $250 was counted up in the offering after tithes. I thought the assembly was a bit strange, and I haven't been to a PAW assembly since- looking back I thank GOD that he did not let that first bad experience keep me away from all Apostolics, because if that were the case, where would I be?

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Old 06-23-2008, 03:57 PM
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On the topic of the PAW... the first Apostolic assembly that I ever went to was a PAW assembly in Orlando, FL. I was still in the AG, but I had been invited by a PAW minister and I went. I was vacationing during this time and went in a pair of shorts and a polo. I found the church service a bit strange in that everyone was "shockamooing" and having a wild time and that after two hours there was no preaching. The offering was a "hold-up" style where we weren't let go until $250 was counted up in the offering after tithes. I thought the assembly was a bit strange, and I haven't been to a PAW assembly since- looking back I thank GOD that he did not let that first bad experience keep me away from all Apostolics, because if that were the case, where would I be?

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OH yeah, they'll count the money as it's given. and give the amt to the leader and if it's not enough then you get hounded.

See the trick is if you plan on giving 20 take 4 fives and that way you can give each of the multiple offerings.
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On the topic of the PAW... the first Apostolic assembly that I ever went to was a PAW assembly in Orlando, FL. I was still in the AG, but I had been invited by a PAW minister and I went. I was vacationing during this time and went in a pair of shorts and a polo. I found the church service a bit strange in that everyone was "shockamooing" and having a wild time and that after two hours there was no preaching. The offering was a "hold-up" style where we weren't let go until $250 was counted up in the offering after tithes. I thought the assembly was a bit strange, and I haven't been to a PAW assembly since- looking back I thank GOD that he did not let that first bad experience keep me away from all Apostolics, because if that were the case, where would I be?

GOD BLESS!
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I've seen some down right dirty tricks and things done
in their offering taking too. I think in the days to come,
a lot of these preachers will have to think twice about
using scare tactics and gimmicks. A lot of people have
become leary and the young generation is turned off by it.


I was at a convention once and the Bishop told the congregation
that he was not allowing the choir off the bus to sing Til he got
the amount he asked for. the choir had to sit outside on the bus
Til he gave the cue.

I was a COGIC conference once and they had a $50 line.
everyone in the $50 line would receive a prophecy that night.
I am not kidding.

I could go on and on with this one
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:01 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist

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OH yeah, they'll count the money as it's given. and give the amt to the leader and if it's not enough then you get hounded.

See the trick is if you plan on giving 20 take 4 fives and that way you can give each of the multiple offerings.
Yeah, I guess that'd work!
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That's too bad Bobby is gone... I came to the Truth through Gino Jenning's preaching (Gino Jennings is the guy TruthSeeker thought was Bobby's pastor in Philadelphia, but Bobby later called Gino a devil). It is too bad to see how far from Bishop Johnson's preaching the assembly in Philadelphia, under Bishop Omega's pastorate went. I definitely believe we'll see Johnson in Heaven, which makes him different from Branham. It really is too bad Bobby is gone, I would have liked to ask him a few questions... sure Bobby was offensive, but only sticks and stones break bones, and if he offended someone, they should have just ignored him, but AFF isn't a democracy and as for tolerance of others, this forum does go farther than most others.

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I have brought Jennings up on the net what would be the difference between him and Bishop Johnson?
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