The Persecution of Women in the Church

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Coonskinner,

Don't put more into the post than is stated. I know that you defend Felicity because she only posts in agreement with your sometimes ridiculous posts. I tell you if I agree and I tell you when I disagree. It is who I am. You do not have to attack me just to defend her.

BTW if you will do a little research on the glass-ceiling effect, as well as the roles and denegration of women historically you will find my statement to be right in line with the research.

Blessings, Rhoni

Sociological studies mean nothing to him unless you say it in Coondog.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Coonskinner,

Don't put more into the post than is stated. I know that you defend Felicity because she only posts in agreement with your sometimes ridiculous posts.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by ILG

CS, can you never find a good thing to say about the fact that women have sometimes been historically denigrated and that people sometimes say so?

You know how he is. Men never ask for directions and rarely admit when they are wrong.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Sociological studies mean nothing to him unless you say it in Coondog.

ROTFL!!!

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by ILG

CS, can you never find a good thing to say about the fact that women have sometimes been historically denigrated and that people sometimes say so?

No, I can't, because I think the historical denigration of women is awful, and I can't think of a thing good to say about it, except for the fact that in our day, in our country, it is nowhere near as bad and prevalent as it used to be.

For that I rejoice.

If you want to paint me as some kind of male chauvinist pig, it won't work. There are too many that will testify to the contrary.

I have been an advocate and protector of women my whole life.

I have put myself in harm's way to defend ladies, and would do so again in a minute.

I stood up to a grown man when I was 12 years old over an abusive situation, knowing I might get my brains half knocked out.

A year or so later, when I was around 13-14, I faced a man swinging a chain in order to help extricate a young lady from him.

I have helped women get free of abusive relationships--real abusive relationships, not the penny=ante stuff that sometimes gets whined about. A disagreement gets magnified into "mental abuse."

You could poll the women in my life and they would all tell you that I am a gentleman with huge respect for women.

Forgive the transparency and personal examples, but I have not always lived in idyllic situations, and had a rough childhood in some ways.

I'll go to the wall to help a woman in trouble.

I have zero tolerance for abusive men.

But this nonsense about Apostolic standards being persecution, is a joke, a bad joke that isn't funny.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Coonskinner,

Don't put more into the post than is stated. I know that you defend Felicity because she only posts in agreement with your sometimes ridiculous posts. I tell you if I agree and I tell you when I disagree. It is who I am. You do not have to attack me just to defend her.

BTW if you will do a little research on the glass-ceiling effect, as well as the roles and denegration of women historically you will find my statement to be right in line with the research.

Blessings, Rhoni

Rhoni, you just made a slick tree.

(Saying it in coon dog)

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Coonskinner,

Don't put more into the post than is stated. I know that you defend Felicity because she only posts in agreement with your sometimes ridiculous posts. I tell you if I agree and I tell you when I disagree. It is who I am. You do not have to attack me just to defend her.

BTW if you will do a little research on the glass-ceiling effect, as well as the roles and denegration of women historically you will find my statement to be right in line with the research.

Blessings, Rhoni

Have you read the Second Shift by Arlie Hoschild? .... inequity is still true today in our society ... especially w/ working mothers



If it's true in society ... it's true in the Church ...

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

No, I can't, because I think the historical denigration of women is awful, and I can't think of a thing good to say about it, except for the fact that in our day, in our country, it is nowhere near as bad and prevalent as it used to be.

For that I rejoice.

If you want to paint me as some kind of male chauvinist pig, it won't work. There are too many that will testify to the contrary.

I have been an advocate and protector of women my whole life.

I have put myself in harm's way to defend ladies, and would do so again in a minute.

I stood up to a grown man when I was 12 years old over an abusive situation, knowing I might get my brains half knocked out.

A year or so later, when I was around 13-14, I faced a man swinging a chain in order to help extricate a young lady from him.

I have helped women get free of abusive relationships--real abusive relationships, not the penny=ante stuff that sometimes gets whined about. A disagreement gets magnified into "mental abuse."

You could poll the women in my life and they would all tell you that I am a gentleman with huge respect for women.

Forgive the transparency and personal examples, but I have not always lived in idyllic situations, and had a rough childhood in some ways.

I'll go to the wall to help a woman in trouble.

I have zero tolerance for abusive men.

But this nonsense about Apostolic standards being persecution, is a joke, a bad joke that isn't funny.

My CS, I must have really touched a nerve! I never said you were a chauvinist!! I don't think you are one, but it always amazes me how you come out of the woodwork fighting and swinging on this topic. Makes me wonder whatsa going on there. And of course, you and I disagree about some of the doctrines not being denigrating to women. I think they are out of balance. Not intentionally denigrating though, I'm sure.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Who is RC?

RedeemedCynic

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

But this nonsense about Apostolic standards being persecution, is a joke, a bad joke that isn't funny.

To me, this is the bottom line.

We've all agreed that some men are abusive, that abuse happens and that most of us have experienced it along the way.

That doesn't negate the principles of the Word of God. <--------> Another bottom line.