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Old 07-30-2007, 11:27 PM
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What did Jesus nail to the cross?

Romans 6:6
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:28 PM
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Funny. Seems like you were agreeing with me on a point he disagreed with me on.

I see a whole lot of semantics going on here. I also see the handwriting on the wall.

I'm out. Be Blessed!
Hit the road jack and doncha come back no mo no mo no mo no mo



hehe just kidding bro
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This is from Elder Ensey's Theological dictionary.
Original sin.A reference to the disobedience of Adam,and Eve that plunged humankind into sin and which taints every person borned into the world.
The guilt of their sin was imputed and conveyed to all their posterity.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:30 PM
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Scott, do you believe through the Holy Spirit you have the ability to resist temptation and sin and then to not commit sin, though you have a fallen nature?
Certainly through the Holy Spirit I do.
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What did Jesus nail to the cross?

Romans 6:6
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Handwriting of ordinances?
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
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Certainly through the Holy Spirit I do.
Jesus being full of the Spirit beyond measure could not then overcome that propensity?
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Im not catholic. I don't believe in original sin.

If however by original sin you mean everyone has the ability and propensity to commit sin? Yes I believe that. Our record is tainted when we commit Sin. That is why the author made the point to mention "tempted in all points like us, yet without sin.

What is sin?
Hold on here .. only Catholics believe in original sin?
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Elder Strange did Jesus Christ have the inclination or tendency to sin?
According to Webster Propensity means the inclination or tendency.
Yes sir.

According to Heb 2:16, and subsequent verses throughout the remainder of the Chapter. In fact, you might get a foundation to these verses beginning in the 1st Chapter when it is stated that he was made a little lower than the angels.
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As long as it is not
a sin said to be inherited by all descendants of Adam; "Adam and Eve committed the original sin when they ate the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/original%20sin
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Of course Jesus Christ did not yield to temptation.
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