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Jesus is God, but God doesn't have a birthday, but I'm not separating them into two beings.
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Jesus is God, so I celebrate God's BD because celebrating Jesus' BD means I believe Jesus isn't God.
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09-02-2007, 12:19 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
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Originally Posted by whollyHis
We have never celebrated christmas as the day of Jesus' birth- much to the chagrin of some ministers, I might add. It is solely a secular tradition for us- nothing spiritual about it...a time for eating and being together as a family, and giving gifts. Period.
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Thank you. See people? Someone who does Christmas for this reason I can understand, as a purely secular thing. None of this "unto the Lord" and "celebrating Jesus' birth" nonsense.
I may actually send you a gift, just because you made this post, WH.
Nah, just kidding! 
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09-02-2007, 12:21 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
Luk 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
The heavenly host rejoiced at the birth of Christ, why shouldn't I? I do not celebrate his birthday, I celebrate his birth.
Hark the herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!
Peace on earth and mercy mild
God and sinners reconciled"
Joyful, all ye nations rise
Join the triumph of the skies
With the angelic host proclaim:
"Christ is born in Bethlehem"
Hark! The herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!"
Christ by highest heav'n adored
Christ the everlasting Lord!
Late in time behold Him come
Offspring of a Virgin's womb
Veiled in flesh the Godhead see
Hail the incarnate Deity
Pleased as man with man to dwell
Jesus, our Emmanuel
Hark! The herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!"
Hail the heav'n-born Prince of Peace!
Hail the Son of Righteousness!
Light and life to all He brings
Ris'n with healing in His wings
Mild He lays His glory by
Born that man no more may die
Born to raise the sons of earth
Born to give them second birth
Hark! The herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!"
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Right. :sshhh You just happened to pick the day He wasn't born on, the same day the RCC robbed from pagans who were worshipping their sun-god. Tisk, tisk, tisk.
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09-02-2007, 12:24 AM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sparta, TN
Posts: 2,399
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico
Right. :sshhh You just happened to pick the day He wasn't born on, the same day the RCC robbed from pagans who were worshipping their sun-god. Tisk, tisk, tisk.
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Well, since I am not celebrating the day itself, does it really matter what day? If anyone knew the actual date, I am sure it would be the day the world recognized as his birth day.
Do you deny that the heavenly host rejoiced at his birth?
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09-02-2007, 12:29 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
Well, since I am not celebrating the day itself, does it really matter what day?
Do you deny that the heavenly host rejoiced at his birth?
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If I do, would it be any different than so many other people around here who deny that they are participating in a pagan practice, one that God never endorsed? See, I have been down this "I am celebrating His incarnation" road with people before, and I think it's nothing more than an excuse for going along with the celebration of Christmas. I have yet to see the "incarnation crowd" not participate in everything else going on on this day, but you may be the first. Why not pick a day in Sept or Oct? I can answer that before I even ask; because it wouldn't be Christmas then.
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09-02-2007, 12:48 AM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sparta, TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico
If I do, would it be any different than so many other people around here who deny that they are participating in a pagan practice, one that God never endorsed? See, I have been down this "I am celebrating His incarnation" road with people before, and I think it's nothing more than an excuse for going along with the celebration of Christmas. I have yet to see the "incarnation crowd" not participate in everything else going on on this day, but you may be the first. Why not pick a day in Sept or Oct? I can answer that before I even ask; because it wouldn't be Christmas then.
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Because I see the choice of the day itself as insignificant. It is the day that the world has set aside to commemorate the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I can, and have, sung songs of his birth at all times of the year. I simply choose to take the day this world has set aside to join in to commemorate that birth.
BTW - I see heavens endorsement of celebrating his birth from the heavenly host. If they could rejoice and be glad that the Savior had finally come, then so can I.
That is why I can sing:
O Come, Emmanuel
O come, o come, Emmanuel,
And ransom captive Israel,
That mourns in lonely exile here,
Until the Son of God appear.
Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee, o Israel.
O come, Thou Rod of Jesse, free
Thine own from Satan's tyranny;
From depths of Hell thy people save,
And give them vict'ry o'er the grave.
Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee o Israel.
O come, o Day-spring come and cheer
Our spirits by Thine advent here,
And drive away the shades of night,
And pierce the clouds and bring us light.
Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee o Israel.
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09-02-2007, 12:55 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
Posts: 9,004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
Because I see the choice of the day itself as insignificant. It is the day that the world has set aside to commemorate the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I can, and have, sung songs of his birth at all times of the year. I simply choose to take the day this world has set aside to join in to commemorate that birth.
BTW - I see heavens endorsement of celebrating his birth from the heavenly host. If they could rejoice and be glad that the Savior had finally come, then so can I.
That is why I can sing:
O Come, Emmanuel
O come, o come, Emmanuel,
And ransom captive Israel,
That mourns in lonely exile here,
Until the Son of God appear.
Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee, o Israel.
O come, Thou Rod of Jesse, free
Thine own from Satan's tyranny;
From depths of Hell thy people save,
And give them vict'ry o'er the grave.
Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee o Israel.
O come, o Day-spring come and cheer
Our spirits by Thine advent here,
And drive away the shades of night,
And pierce the clouds and bring us light.
Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee o Israel.
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Brother, as much as I would love to get into this whole Christmas thing with you, I have decided not to. See the thread I just started and you will understand why.
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09-02-2007, 10:30 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,415
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico
See? The bolded part is a classic example of the ignorance (lack of knowledge) that is so pervasive among Christians. The wise men did not show up within the hour of Jesus being born. Jesus was around 2 years old when this happened, NOT the night He was born. This is why Herod ordered the death of every male child 2 years of age and younger. It wasn't at the inn, the barn, the manger, or anything of the sort. He was already back at home when this happened.
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You must be reading your "WatchTower magazine again". Truely get a better reference material in the future.
For the sake of my point.
If they showed up the hour of his birth or 2 years later.
They were there to solely mark the birth of the Messiah...
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09-02-2007, 10:32 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,415
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
Luk 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
The heavenly host rejoiced at the birth of Christ, why shouldn't I? I do not celebrate his birthday, I celebrate his birth.
Hark the herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!
Peace on earth and mercy mild
God and sinners reconciled"
Joyful, all ye nations rise
Join the triumph of the skies
With the angelic host proclaim:
"Christ is born in Bethlehem"
Hark! The herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!"
Christ by highest heav'n adored
Christ the everlasting Lord!
Late in time behold Him come
Offspring of a Virgin's womb
Veiled in flesh the Godhead see
Hail the incarnate Deity
Pleased as man with man to dwell
Jesus, our Emmanuel
Hark! The herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!"
Hail the heav'n-born Prince of Peace!
Hail the Son of Righteousness!
Light and life to all He brings
Ris'n with healing in His wings
Mild He lays His glory by
Born that man no more may die
Born to raise the sons of earth
Born to give them second birth
Hark! The herald angels sing
"Glory to the newborn King!"
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Very solid point....
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09-05-2007, 05:46 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In a cold dark cave.....
Posts: 4,624
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I love Chrismas (and even parody) songs.
I love kissing MrsB under mistletoe too!
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09-05-2007, 05:51 PM
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Create Your Own Rainbows!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Adamsville, TN
Posts: 8,492
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
I love Chrismas (and even parody) songs.
I love kissing MrsB under mistletoe too!
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My boss plays Christmas CDs in her office all year long!
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