There Has Been A Change

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

Actually, he DID say he felt or had feelings . . .

Also, if you take time to read through the posts of Bro. Strange, how else, if not through feeling, would he recognize a spirit? It's not as though he physically saw an old nemesis and said, "Aha! YOU again!?!" I'm pretty sure he "felt" something in his spirit that he didn't agree with.

I don't fault him for feeling something he may not agree with . . . what I'm interested in knowing is this: will he step up and speak to MB personally about this and charge him with the same fervor he's done online here.

It's doubtful . . . but I could be wrong.

His initial post DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT FEELINGS. Are you folks just looking for a fight or what?

He was very plain in stating he recognized the spirit. Anyone with an ounce of Holy Ghost would have no problem understanding that you do not know a spirit by feelings, but by the Spirit. I have been around demons on several occasions in my life, and it was not FEELINGS that let me know they were there. It was by the Holy Ghost (maybe discernment), not by feelings.

And I am sure after recognizing that everyone else there seemed to be oblivious to what was transpiring in the spirit realm, I would tend to "FEEL" ready to weep myself.

Whether or not Bro Strange chose to confront MB or not is up to him. Again, this IS a discussion board, and opinions are discussed. IF MB does not like it, he can either continue on without blinking an eye (which is most likely), come here and refute it, or get out of the limelight so he is not talked about.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Thanks for posting that - I thought we'd lost our ability to post opinions here.

let freedom rein

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

His initial post DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT FEELINGS. Are you folks just looking for a fight or what?

He was very plain in stating he recognized the spirit. Anyone with an ounce of Holy Ghost would have no problem understanding that you do not know a spirit by feelings, but by the Spirit. I have been around demons on several occations in my life, and it was not FEELINGS that let me know they were there. It was by the Holy Ghost (maybe discernment), not by feelings.

And I am sure after recognizing that everyone else there seemed to be oblivious to what was transpiring in the spirit realm, I would tend to "FEEL" ready to weep myself.

Whether or not Bro Strange chose to confront MB or not is up to him. Again, this IS a discusion board, and opinions are discussed. IF MB does not like it, he can either continue on without blinking an eye (which is most likely), come here and refute it, or get out of the limelight so he is not talked about.

His initial post may not have . . . but his later posts did. Not trying to pick a fight here.

Again:

Originally Posted by Bro. Strange

If what I have seen and felt here is an indication...the whole Apostolic movement as we know it, has made a sharp turn toward error and is becoming embued with a strange spirit that I would have never thought to be possible.

It's pretty clear in this post that he felt something. Like it or not, it is what he said.

I'm wondering . . . I understand we walk by faith, not by sight; we're led by the Spirit and not by physical emotions or feelings . . . but how exactly does one just recognize a spirit WITHOUT feeling something - whether feeling it in the spirit or feeling it naturally?

For those who have the gift of discernment, or have used it recently . . . how did it work? Did you have any feelings? Even a spiritual feeling.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

For those who have the gift of discernment, or have used it recently . . . how did it work? Did you have any feelings? Even a spiritual feeling.

You can 'feel' the presence of a spirit just like you 'feel' the presence of God. It's definitely a different 'feeling'.

But you can also 'feel' something within your own spirit when something is not quite right. It's not a good feeling, but a sinking, sick feeling or maybe you could call it an uneasy feeling in the pit of your being.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Again, you are reading "Feelings" into what I just quoted Bro Strange as saying. He never said feelings in the quote. He said he recognized the spirit. He did not say he felt the spirit. He did not say he felt that there was a spirit. He said plainly that he recognized the spirit. Not that any of this matters, but you are continuing to attribute what Bro Strange said to his feelings, and he did not say that or imply that.

That is beside the point, it is still subjective. As I said there are a zillion prophets who all say they know someone elses spirit and hear from God and all of them could point fingers at each other and declare what they "felt" in the Spirit. Am I supposed to just accept that what Bro Strange is a fact based on what he said? We aren't talking about him seeing someone with a big zit on his forehead and saying "I recognize that, that's a zit"..we are talking about things that are unseen and very often when it comes to things like that we enter the realm of beliefs, opinions and feelings.

I have no problem that Thad mentioned a preacher ordering a $400 lobster. This is a discussion board, so this is the place to discuss things.

Well that is you, but a lot of others lambasted Thad. Perhaps the others here can say why they can participate in this discussion but not in Thads.

Bro Strange voiced an opinion, which is pretty much what most do here. Even when someone backs up their thoughts with scripture, it is their opinion of what the scripture is saying.

That's my point when I say "felt" or "feelings"! yet in this case the person in question, whom if you watched the broadcast you would know that persons name, was speaking by a demonic spirit. And others seem to be jumping on the bandwagon and accepting it as a true statement of fact....and I am stating MY opinion on that.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Yes, but whether he blesses me or not, I will serve him. I've been in want and I've been full. It seems to run in cycles but I give regardless.

Pro 3:9-10 Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase: So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.

I wonder how many here would accuse you of prosperity doctrine because you believe that

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by tv1a

God blesses all giving, even financial giving.

Why is it then being associated with prosperity teaching?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

I thought we give because we love Him, not expect a return.

who said we give not because we love him but because we expect a return?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Thanks for posting that - I thought we'd lost our ability to post opinions here.

His Opinion was that another preacher was speaking via a demonic spirit. Nobody is saying he can't have an opinion but I think that does not mean I can't have one too! And I have been expressing it.

Originally Posted by Dan

Don't worry. He will know in just a little while what Bro. strange is saying. I do know of one man in years gone by that made some false statements about and MB and MB called him and told him his attorney would be in touch with him. you never seen such back peddling. LOL

MB is one of my very good friends and I don't appreciate men like Bro. Strange getting on here and trying to destroy him. If he did not agree....go to MB!

First, I called no names.

Secondly, I would be more than happy to meet with him or anyone else here in my Motel room or over a table in a restaurant...or in the lobby here. I would not invite an audience to the conversation.

I'm available. I'm not bitter. I'm not angry. I'm not contentious. In fact, I did rub shoulders with him tonight but he did not know me. There were a lot of old preacher friends that I was all to happy to see after church. My spirit was greatly lifted after Jeff Arnold preached tonight. Otherwise, I would have just walked away.

I talked with Jeff for a while. I made mention that his message tonight was in the perfect will of God and that it was a message that could set the church on the right course. The other thing that needed to be dealt with is tradition. Though the right course can be set, little good it does unless the power of tradition can be broken.

Great service tonight including the offering. I was elated to see the offering taken in the right spirit, though long. Well over 100K was raised for missions. I felt the burden from the moment the HM Director spoke.

My spirit was greatly lifted after despairing last night. Because I felt lifted, I spent time fellowshipping with old friends. I was glad to see Kevin Cox. He was my little buddy when he was a kid. His father pastored many of my relatives. He recently preached my cousin's (Kendal Pugh) funeral.

A lot of those preachers that I saw were just little fellows when I last saw them. Many of them remembered me. I had trouble remembering some of them since adulthood does things to them.

I am going to have breakfast with some of my friends from my old home church tomorrow. Then, I will spend some time with some others. All of this because my spirit has been greatly encouraged after this service. Otherwise, I would have just driven home in the morning, dejected and discouraged.

Yet, I feel the Apostolic movement as we know it has made a shift. Hopefully, tonight's message will help move it back on course.

However, it is silly to even think about trying to intimidate me with attorneys. There is no back peddling on my part...ever. There is NEVER any fear of that garbage. I have more attorneys in my family that would be happy to take on such nonsense. My son is one of the finest civil attorneys in the state of Texas in full partnership with one of the most prestigeous law offices with many branches in the state. A son is a law professor at Texas Tech.

Tell them to bring on all the lawsuits anyone wants. I would not welcome it, but I would not even flinch for a second.

At least, dealing with me is not dealing with some red neck hickey, good ol' boy that can be intimadated. I'll look them square in the eye and say exactly what is on my mind in person or in court. No matter to me.