What is the GOSPEL? - Page 22

shazeep · #**211** 11-11-2016, 10:27 AM

ok, about 'baptism,' this baptism thing. baptism is just a symbol for immersion ok, you got immersed in water in the womb; baptized in to the earth the day you were born--a hard thing, but you just forget it. ask your mom you were crying and everything. then, you got immersed in the world, but that one was easy, learning the rituals of your society, was all that one was. is you 'baptism' just another of those rituals? seek the baptism of the Spirit and the fire one find out how to get immersed in those. and don't be...don't assume glossing the lolia is anything other than another societal ritual, ok. Spirit is Word, so go get immersed in the Word. just look at what society deems "Word," just go ask any guy on the street what "God's Word" means, and then take it as a given that he will almost surely probably accurately reflect back to you what society, the world, has immersed him in as far as "God's Word" is concerned, and proceed from there ok
and don't worry about the "fire" one too much, find the Spirit one, and the fire one will find you, i'm pretty sure

shazeep · #**212** 11-11-2016, 02:02 PM

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"i do not know what i am talking about" means believe nothing you hear, especially if you heard it from me, that does not fit with your own understanding, and common sense. it is us who reap what we sow.You are reaping fine...

see if you just believe me believe what i am saying, then all you have is a belief; that does not fir in with your experience. So you have no Word from which to proceed; you are merely proceeding on a belief. This is like going to a guy with a Caduceus in his lapel for healing; or looking at a snake on a pole for salvation. and if you do not see the connection between those last two, the right-in-your-face connection, then you are going to exclaim "miracle!" for operations, and won't understand why that is not true; and be offended when it is pointed out to you.
it is, exactly, how it is supposed to be. you can go read what happened to the snake on a pole anytime you like; you will find it when you are ready for it.

don't find love, until you are ready.

mfblume · #**213** 11-11-2016, 03:37 PM

John 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

Esaias · #**214** 11-11-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

This is like going to a guy with a Caduceus in his lapel for healing; or looking at a snake on a pole for salvation.

You've got a snake in your attic, after all these years,
With mice and mothballs,
And little black holes in the walls...

Evang.Benincasa · #**215** 11-11-2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

ok, about 'baptism,' this baptism thing. baptism is just a symbol for immersion ok, you got immersed in water in the womb; baptized in to the earth the day you were born--a hard thing, but you just forget it. ask your mom you were crying and everything. then, you got immersed in the world, but that one was easy, learning the rituals of your society, was all that one was. is you 'baptism' just another of those rituals? seek the baptism of the Spirit and the fire one find out how to get immersed in those. and don't be...don't assume glossing the lolia is anything other than another societal ritual, ok. Spirit is Word, so go get immersed in the Word. just look at what society deems "Word," just go ask any guy on the street what "God's Word" means, and then take it as a given that he will almost surely probably accurately reflect back to you what society, the world, has immersed him in as far as "God's Word" is concerned, and proceed from there ok
and don't worry about the "fire" one too much, find the Spirit one, and the fire one will find you, i'm pretty sure

Sadly you are ecclesial toast.