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[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

No, I'm not really comparing apples to oranges. Role playing has roots in places like Corinth and into Playboy. HUH?????????
Looking "sexy" for a spouse doesn't have to include "role playing". Doesn't HAVE to

What I am trying to say is that we need to be careful on advising or encouraging couples what is "okay" or "innocent" in their marriage. Too argue that we cannot be right if we disagree. If anything, we need to encourage liberty to couples in marriages. That's what I find. Dark views about sexuality. Repressed fantasies. Let it loose! Have fun! God gave you a partner for these sweet, illicit day dreams.

Some couples may need to leave things in their past as it only incites a lust they wanted to leave behind. Okay... like what? A lust that is not healthy in a marriage and only opens doors that need to be left shut. If this lust is directed toward my spouse? I think we just need to see that side of it when we discuss what we all feel is important for every couple.

One couple may view that as so innocent they cannot conceive that anything could be wrong it in. Another couple may view that as a door they dare not touch and they dare not open. Romans 14 applies here. If you are condemned by your conscience, then don't do it. Easy as that. Most of the time, though, this "condemnation" is from the way this subject was taught and ingrained in a person for years and years.

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[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Understood. Which is why couples need to work that out between themselves, and outside recommendations are fairly inappropriate. IOW, I don't want a third party telling me I need to "try this or that." To that end, I can see how someone teaching on the subject could cause offense or harm by suggesting specific ideas or acts. Best to cover it from a biblical, principled point of view, and leave the specifics to the couple.

So, at a seminar for couples, the subject of sex comes up. They should leave alone the entire topic of fantasy/role play, creativity? The couple that could use this to "spice things up" or to encourage them to talk to each other about it.... the church just continues its policy of silence on these matters? Only giving the Thou Shalt Nots?

In the end, as you've said, it's entirely up the primary principles of respect within the relationship and between those two partners. But like a book, you may get more than you need, and may only use 1%, but someone will need it.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Understood. Which is why couples need to work that out between themselves, and outside recommendations are fairly inappropriate. IOW, I don't want a third party telling me I need to "try this or that." To that end, I can see how someone teaching on the subject could cause offense or harm by suggesting specific ideas or acts. Best to cover it from a biblical, principled point of view, and leave the specifics to the couple.

Amen.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

uhhhh...no. It's simply seeing your spouse in a different way. That can be fun.

There's nothing wrong with playing games. The games don't really work if you don't already have chemistry.

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I agree.

Verbal games are much more fun, enticing and stimulating, IMO.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Verbal games are much more fun, enticing and stimulating, IMO.

Flirting is of absolute importance.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

uhhhh...no. It's simply seeing your spouse in a different way. That can be fun.

Like Superman and Louis Lane! Just make sure you give yourself a way out in case he gets knocked out in the closet before being able to rescue you.



There's nothing wrong with playing games. The games don't really work if you don't already have chemistry.

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[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

If anything, we need to encourage liberty to couples in marriages. That's what I find. Dark views about sexuality. Repressed fantasies. Let it loose! Have fun! God gave you a partner for these sweet, illicit day dreams.

That's retarded to think that "role playing" is the only way to illicit day dreams from my husband. 'Cause I know that isn't true.

Okay... like what?

Well, you think you know everything. Figure it out. LOL!

If this lust is directed toward my spouse?

If I lust after him simply because of sexual pleasure? Nothing wrong with that. To lust after him to fulfill lustful fantasies and other memories? Not a good thing. That is the door I was speaking of.

Romans 14 applies here. If you are condemned by your conscience, then don't do it. Easy as that. Most of the time, though, this "condemnation" is from the way this subject was taught and ingrained in a person for years and years.

I agree with Romans 14. I don't agree with your last statement - "most of the time" - as that is a "broadbrush" statement and cannot apply in every case.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Flirting is of absolute importance.

Totally! Trumps so many things!

Just something simple as the other day, my husband was trying to hang his suit up and I kept pushing it off the bed and onto the floor. He started grinning and I knew I had him.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Totally! Trumps so many things!

Well, isn't "flirtation" a form of role-playing? After all, a puritan would say that its main and only purpose is to "seduce" someone into committing an immoral act.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Well, isn't "flirtation" a form of role-playing? After all, a puritan would say that its main and only purpose is to "seduce" someone into committing an immoral act.

Oh good grief! Now I'm getting a headache! And you know what that means?!!!