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Old 06-04-2008, 02:50 PM
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And there is pressure in those countries for the troops to leave as well.
They also are not there as an occupying power.

Don't you think that there should be a push toward Iraq sovereignty?
Iraqis need to govern themselves. Sadly, I don't see a Democracy in Iraq. I think we'll see something more akin to a coalition government where a specific religious faction keeps control.
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:51 PM
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Folks, we had issues in Germany until the 1950's. we still have bases both there and in Japan 60 years later.


I want a stable ally in the middle east where we can have bases of operations. just like we do in Europe and the far east.
Germany and Japan aren't Islamic cultures.
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"I have no Plan B. ... I cannot give you a good alternative because if I had a good alternative, maybe we could consider it now. Every alternative that I know of that is keyed to a date for withdrawal, which that would dictate, is chaos in the region. And genocide."

— In an interview with The New York Times, April 14, 2007

I'm just saying that he was very clear about his stance on a timetable...until he came up with one of his own. A timetable is either naive and foolish or it's not.
Bro, is 2013 a time table for withdrawal or a firm prediction of how long it will take to achieve stabaliztion?

what Obama wants is a timetable for withdrawal that is stated publically and our enemies can simply lay low unitl we pass that date.

You are taking McCain out of context again.
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You have been gone too long... But still.... Do I have to smack you upside the head too!
No head smacking allowed...Diz does that to me just fine! Btw: I did say TIC at the end of that thing didn't I?
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hmm this obsession with how much money people make rings familiar, lol
Only obsession (if one calls it an obsession, more of a comment) is that when the Rich get Richer & the poor get poorer, and what's left of the Middle class is meant to bear the main cost, that is the stuff that fuels revolutions!
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i do mind you asking.
some things are just nunyo, nunyobidness, lol
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No head smacking allowed...Diz does that to me just fine! Btw: I did say TIC at the end of that thing didn't I?
Yea but I purposfully ignored it LOL Dizzy!!!! GIT over here!!!
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Iraqis need to govern themselves. Sadly, I don't see a Democracy in Iraq. I think we'll see something more akin to a coalition government where a specific religious faction keeps control.
It will be unstable for sure, but sadly that is but the norm for that part of the world.
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Amen!
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