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Old 03-19-2007, 09:10 AM
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Statements like this get interspersed into some true statements and then the whole thing turns into a witch hunt.

The lady in question NEVER SAID that her hair would HEAL her husband! She never insinutated that her hair had any HEALING power. As phil stated, she simply reminded God, as the man after God's own heart did on occasion, of her obedience to His word.

Quit adding stuff to what she said and did and it's simple -- the lady asked God to honor her obedience.


The lady NEVER SAID she had "more bargaining power with God". Once again, statements like this lead to the witch hunt.
This is a good post...thank you!

I know I'll receive criticism for this, but I once layed my uncut hair on our son's head and prayed for his healing...out of sheer desperation! We had tried everything and he'd been prayed for many, many times, but the symptoms of childhood epilepsy were coming back and it scared me. So, I simply did it, and while praying reminded God that I had not cut my hair in obedience to His Word, etc.. I do not believe that my hair healed my boy...God did! I think in a desperate situation many of us might do something out of the ordinary to see results!
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:13 AM
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This is a good post...thank you!

I know I'll receive criticism for this, but I once layed my uncut hair on our son's head and prayed for his healing...out of sheer desperation! We had tried everything and he'd been prayed for many, many times, but the symptoms of childhood epilepsy were coming back and it scared me. So, I simply did it, and while praying reminded God that I had not cut my hair in obedience to His Word, etc.. I do not believe that my hair healed my boy...God did! I think in a desperate situation many of us might do something out of the ordinary to see results!
I am not saying that some act of faith regardless of what it is may not touch God however it has NOTHING to do with this verse. If this happened I rejoice for the healing and God can use any act of faith.
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:15 AM
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I am not saying that some act of faith regardless of what it is may not touch God however it has NOTHING to do with this verse. If this happened I rejoice for the healing and God can use any act of faith.
Healing did come, but I give God the glory!!!

Also, this is the only time I've done this.
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:18 AM
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This is a good post...thank you!

I know I'll receive criticism for this, but I once layed my uncut hair on our son's head and prayed for his healing...out of sheer desperation! We had tried everything and he'd been prayed for many, many times, but the symptoms of childhood epilepsy were coming back and it scared me. So, I simply did it, and while praying reminded God that I had not cut my hair in obedience to His ord, etc.. I do not believe that my hair healed my boy...God did! I think in a desperate situation many of us might do something out of the ordinary to see results!
CareyM,
I've done the same thing - out of desperation. I know it was my faith that saw me through and not my hair.

I've debated the whole scripture interpretation, and why not? I think I was looking for some explanation that hit me. After it was all over I never did.

Where I stand is that I am in a church that upholds that doctrine and until the Lord, if He does, moves me I will follow the "uncut" hair.

I don't condemn them that cut their hair. It's between them and God.

The Lord has never shown me anything about it, but has about the Godhead, Baptism, speaking in tongues and other subjects. So, I guess I will always wonder what it really means.
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:21 AM
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This is a good post...thank you!

I know I'll receive criticism for this, but I once layed my uncut hair on our son's head and prayed for his healing...out of sheer desperation! We had tried everything and he'd been prayed for many, many times, but the symptoms of childhood epilepsy were coming back and it scared me. So, I simply did it, and while praying reminded God that I had not cut my hair in obedience to His Word, etc.. I do not believe that my hair healed my boy...God did! I think in a desperate situation many of us might do something out of the ordinary to see results!
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I am not saying that some act of faith regardless of what it is may not touch God however it has NOTHING to do with this verse. If this happened I rejoice for the healing and God can use any act of faith.
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Healing did come, but I give God the glory!!!

Also, this is the only time I've done this.
Carey, I certainly do not think you are into spooky stuff and am grateful that God honored your faith. I see nothing wrong with reminding God of obedience.

However, the emailed reason for this thread as well as my experience with folks have led me to be cautious of these things.

For the brothers to state that this is a witch hunt is totally unfair to the godly women here who have voiced oposition.

God bless you, girl...
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:22 AM
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CareyM,
I've done the same thing - out of desperation. I know it was my faith that saw me through and not my hair.

I've debated the whole scripture interpretation, and why not? I think I was looking for some explanation that hit me. After it was all over I never did.

Where I stand is that I am in a church that upholds that doctrine and until the Lord, if He does, moves me I will follow the "uncut" hair.

I don't condemn them that cut their hair. It's between them and God.

The Lord has never shown me anything about it, but has about the Godhead, Baptism, speaking in tongues and other subjects. So, I guess I will always wonder what it really means.
Whew! Glad to hear I'm not the only one!

I've always believed (the 16 yrs I've been Apostolic) that a woman should have uncut hair, but it wasn't until these past couple of years that my husband and I thoroughly studied the scripture to see what the Bible really says about it. We still believe it! However, there are some scriptures, like the one being discussed on this thread that I'm not entirely sure about.
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:24 AM
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I don't have a big issue with it..... FAITH moves God..... I don't really care how you express your faith... I have seen weirder things in the pentecostal realm.... some believe that when they lay their wallets on the altar, that God will bless their finances......IT is an act of faith.... some believe when they put pictures of loved ones on the altar that God is going to save them, it is an ACT of faith..... God honors faith........ I don't have a problem with a woman acting in faith from what she's been taught concerning her hair..... However, I feel sooo sorry for people who try to tear down anothers faith........ don't stand in someone's way. When people act on faith, don't knock it..... If their is a problem, God is going to let them know.

I am not into all this mysticism about the hair, but nor am I into knocking someone because they act in faith..........
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:24 AM
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Carey, I certainly do not think you are into spooky stuff and am grateful that God honored your faith. I see nothing wrong with reminding God of obedience.

However, the emailed reason for this thread as well as my experience with folks have led me to be cautious of these things.

For the brothers to state that this is a witch hunt is totally unfair to the godly women here who have voiced oposition.

God bless you, girl...
Thank you Barb!

I understand your caution and concern...we really must have balance! I don't understand it all and probably will not until I see Jesus face to face and have a chance to ask Him about it some sweet day!
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:25 AM
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Whew! Glad to hear I'm not the only one!

I've always believed (the 16 yrs I've been Apostolic) that a woman should have uncut hair, but it wasn't until these past couple of years that my husband and I thoroughly studied the scripture to see what the Bible really says about it. We still believe it! However, there are some scriptures, like the one being discussed on this thread that I'm not entirely sure about.
I've always wondered why God hasn't spoken to me particularly about it when He has on so many important issues. I think that's why I've debated and discussed it in the past.

I was totally desperate that day. And of course, if we are taught this, we are going to do whatever when we are desperate. I just came away from it knowing that my faith was more important than anything and that He never left me during that hard trial.

I remember my sisters talking me into the prayer cloth thing. We put it under my father's mattress and prayed and fasted for a long time for him. He died lost. I don't hold much with prayer cloths unless the Lord actually lays that on your heart. I feel the same about Faith Promise.
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:27 AM
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This is a good post...thank you!

I know I'll receive criticism for this, but I once layed my uncut hair on our son's head and prayed for his healing...out of sheer desperation! We had tried everything and he'd been prayed for many, many times, but the symptoms of childhood epilepsy were coming back and it scared me. So, I simply did it, and while praying reminded God that I had not cut my hair in obedience to His Word, etc.. I do not believe that my hair healed my boy...God did! I think in a desperate situation many of us might do something out of the ordinary to see results!
LOL!! Your sweet spirit stopped me, 'cause I was fixing to send off a post to brotherman...thank the Lord for ya, girl!!

Don't want to argue...this is my thankful day!!
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