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Old 02-17-2008, 03:04 PM
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It was a joke, because you're so sold out on those guys and they've really done nothing for you.
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However, you could lower taxes for those companies then the money they save they will reinvest into their company and expand it which means more jobs thus more tax revenue for the government without raising taxes!!! And it created jobs!!!! What a novel idea!!! Oh yeah, we done that....thats why my company experience an average yearly growth of 32% for the past 6 years, which in turn has trickled down to me in the form of 3 promotions totaling an 80+% increase in wages in just the past 3 years. A meeting back at the beginning of the year focused on the fact that a Democrat will probably take office next year, as such we are self limiting our growth this year to just 8 - 10% because we know that we are about to sink into a huge tax loss.

You can quote all the statistics you want but it don't jive with real life facts.
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:08 PM
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Scotty, most of the money the companies saved has been eaten up by the increased cost of living, a weakened dollar, and the rest they invested in overseas markets. We didn't see the big boom in jobs they promised.

Did your wages increase 80%? It's a manipulated statistic.
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:10 PM
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Wow. Let's be like Peru dude.
as it relates to social security? you bet. Pruvians retire with a higher standard of living than they had during their working years because their system is privatized.


would to God we had done this in the 1960's When the beloved Ronald Wilson Reagan said we should!
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Scotty, most of the money the companies saved has been eaten up by the increased cost of living, a weakened dollar, and the rest they invested in overseas markets. We didn't see the big boom in jobs they promised.

Did your wages increase 80%? It's a manipulated statistic.
yoo hooo..thats not a statitic , that is my personal paycheck...yes sir 80% increase in 3 yrs....and I watched the same thing happen around me. you work in government, out here in the real world we had job growth and we did great.
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:15 PM
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yoo hooo..thats not a statitic , that is my personal paycheck...yes sir 80% increase in 3 yrs....and I watched the same thing happen around me. you work in government, out here in the real world we had job growth and we did great.
well, I cant say 80% over 3 years but it sure has been pretty nice!

my pay has increased quite a bit over the last 3 years. I would say in the neighborhood of 22%? that aint bad.
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You're cherry picking. There are nations with very successful systems. Lying is still a sin if I remember correctly.
No lies here, bro. You're cherry picking and... uhm prevaricating. Instead of name calling, why don't you just graciously concede the point and admit that "universal health care," when it has been implemented in large countries (with populations in excess of 250 million people) has always been a failure.

And that the whole Keyensian scheme of social welfare has been a failure in Europe. It's easy to do. I will freely admit the same point- and do so without the childish name calling.
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:23 PM
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well, I cant say 80% over 3 years but it sure has been pretty nice!

my pay has increased quite a bit over the last 3 years. I would say in the neighborhood of 22%? that aint bad.
Sorry, must be a Texas thing...lol jk

we have grown by leaps and bounds, opened up two more facilities in the past 5 years. Been hiring left and right, got new insurance plans. etc.
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:29 PM
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as it relates to social security? you bet. Pruvians retire with a higher standard of living than they had during their working years because their system is privatized.


would to God we had done this in the 1960's When the beloved Ronald Wilson Reagan said we should!
Well, be careful. Scotty might tell you to move to Peru because you're unworthy to call yourself an American.

Hey, if Peru has figured Social Security out, I'd have no issues with looking into how they did it. But universal health insurance is a different animal. I don't think America's will be exactly like any other nation's on earth. But I think it will be one of the best, if not the best.
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yoo hooo..thats not a statitic , that is my personal paycheck...yes sir 80% increase in 3 yrs....and I watched the same thing happen around me. you work in government, out here in the real world we had job growth and we did great.
Maybe I'm in the wrong field. What do you do for a living?
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Bro, nations with universal health care are healthier than Americans.
I'd say that has more to do with diet than the healthcare system.
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