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Old 03-15-2007, 02:12 AM
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I have seen the mind-melt death grip at the altar before-

Thankfully not on me!
Ouch, now THAT sounds serious.
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:08 AM
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Chan,

This may come as a shock to you, but I have noticed a certain taint of personality in your posts.

And while I do not wish to be offensive, I have to also inform you that you seem to have a hefty dose of self-esteem.

These are just a couple of matters you might want to give some attention to.
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:23 AM
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Chan,

This may come as a shock to you, but I have noticed a certain taint of personality in your posts.

And while I do not wish to be offensive, I have to also inform you that you seem to have a hefty dose of self-esteem.

These are just a couple of matters you might want to give some attention to.
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:14 AM
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Doesn't look like hair over his ears is going to be a problem!

Could you imagine hearing him preach without emotions or personality?

So much for the weeping prophet, the dancing king-seer and the sword swinging Simon Peter.

When Jonathan Edwards preached his famous sermon Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, he read it quietly in almost monotone. Because the sermon was clearly from God, people in the pews were grabbing onto the posts holding up the ceiling for fear that God would open up the floor and swallow them up right then and there.

It isn't about our emotions, it's about what God chooses to do through us.
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:16 AM
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Chan,

This may come as a shock to you, but I have noticed a certain taint of personality in your posts.

And while I do not wish to be offensive, I have to also inform you that you seem to have a hefty dose of self-esteem.

These are just a couple of matters you might want to give some attention to.
Your subjective opinion does not necessarily have basis in fact. And, yes, you do wish to be offensive - otherwise you wouldn't have made it a point to make these observations publicly.
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:21 AM
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Please tell me you're kidding. You actually think there should be NO personality in preaching? It's wrong to have a personality if your a preacher? How -------------------- nevermind.

You are seriously out there.
Preaching isn't about the twisting of words or the tone or "style" one uses, it's about the power of GOD! It isn't about the rise and fall of one's preaching volume and it isn't about the expression of emotion. It's about the power of GOD! FOLLOW PAUL'S EXAMPLE!

"And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."

Personality and "style" are not demonstrations of the Spirit and of power!

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy fire and brimstone type preaching. But let us not mistake preaching style for the Spirit of God.
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:39 AM
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I think Chany must have read my book, "How to pump yourself up with your own air."
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:26 AM
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I think Chany must have read my book, "How to pump yourself up with your own air."



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Old 03-15-2007, 12:00 PM
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- - THAT TOOTETH HIS OWN HORN -
FOR IF HE DOETH NOT TOOT IT
- - - HOW THEN HOW SHALL IT BE TOOTETED " -




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Old 03-15-2007, 12:12 PM
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...it isn't about the expression of emotion. It's about the power of GOD! FOLLOW PAUL'S EXAMPLE!

"And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."

This is what we call "Hung by the tongue". Yea, no emotion, traits or anything.... blah, blah, blah... But consider your OWN scripture:

"And I was with you (I WAS AMONG THE CHURCH) in weakness (TRAIT), and in fear (EMOTION) and in much trembling (EMOTION)."

Chancellor, I just don't think you're going to win with an argument like you're proposing. Granted, some are flamboyant and God can't be pleased with that. But if you're going to say that preaching that has personality is wrong then evidently your wrong.
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