STARTLING! LARRY BOOKER'S Latest Message!!!(wait til you see this!!!)

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Actually his first Gloria divorced him.

His second wife he divorced her.

As for the Lord Jesus Christ he has divorced Mark Hanby as well.

And did you know that Gloria Married a UPC pastor fairly recently?
perhaps 2005-2006.He's from the Dallas area(name slips my mind right now).I believe he dropped out of UPC shortly after the marriage - caught tremendous flack for it

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Thad

Buffy,


90% percent of the posters here will think you are making this up (been there many times). count me in the 10% that believes you.
we've witessed churches being publically disfellowshipped and the members told not to even greet the members from the neighboring church. thing is , they were BOTH UPC.

Thad, it's a small percentage that doesn't believe that's happening. The large percent knows it is.

I believe it's very hard for those that love this org to realize that there are people out there that will do just as Buffy's example shows. It's not the majority that feel this way, but there are many out there that do and it's silly to keep saying over and over that there aren't out there.

We can only speak for what we know. If we are only around people that don't feel that way, then it's easy to say no one feels differently.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by HangingOut

For the sake of redundancy, I would like to put a few cents worth in after listening to L. Booker’s “Bean Patch” message. Like a lot of you, I have had years of experience in both camps con and mod. I have to be perfectly honest when I say that the struggles with attitude and spirit are pretty equal. I know that LB is as sincere a man as can be in preserving the standards, but what I have observed and feel I have learned is that no matter where you set that bar, it doesn’t do that much for the sake of the individual but becomes more of something that labels the body as such. It certainly allows for a better way of keeping things shored up, but doesn’t make it any less likely to fall than the lesser stand.
The message had several areas begging for question, especially about the MH and KP departure. MH’s problems where issues unrelated to TV and KP has not done too bad from what I know in terms of growth. So for all the doom predicted, I didn’t hear any scenarios that depicted where the TV advertising might be in the near future. It was more an emotional plea at best.

Growth is not always just measured by physical numbers.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Thad, it's a small percentage that doesn't believe that's happening. The large percent knows it is.

I believe it's very hard for those that love this org to realize that there are people out there that will do just as Buffy's example shows. It's not the majority that feel this way, but there are many out there that do and it's silly to keep saying over and over that there aren't out there.

We can only speak for what we know. If we are only around people that don't feel that way, then it's easy to say no one feels differently.

Renda, I remember 4 or 5 years ago trying to tell folks what was coming. we who lived here saw this coming long ago- most laughed and thought it was silly.

some of the preachers who are apart of this whole split are still telling folks that things that are circling around are ALL rumors and even up until recently, denied they were even leaving. some that said they were not leaving HAVE LEFT!!!
There have been talks of splitting off for 10 years. when asked about it, it was " I don't know what you are talking about"....... well, what do we see now???
I think that some are playing their cards.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Thad

Renda, I remember 4 or 5 years ago trying to tell folks what was coming. we who lived here saw this coming long ago- most laughed and thought it was silly.

some of the preachers who are apart of this whole split are still telling folks that things that are circling around are ALL rumors and even up until recently, denied they were even leaving. some that said they were not leaving HAVE LEFT!!!
There have been talks of splitting off for 10 years. when asked about it, it was " I don't know what you are talking about"....... well, what do we see now???
I think that some are playing their cards.

And I believe some of it is motivated by power - nothing more.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

One can also logically assume that a Christian church without the icon of the cross in it's newly built premises, has a focus other than on the cross.

No one can not logically assume that anymore than one can logically assume that the Pastor is a pedophile because they have an outreach to children. If one can logically assume that (I hope everyone knows what happens when we assume things about others) then you should be able to show logically how this is true. Just asserting it over and over does not make it more true

I was minister of music at a church that built a new 1,200 seat worship center. We had a cross on the outside of the church, but not in the auditorium.

You wouldn't believe the complaints we heard from visitors that there wasn't a cross! In our baptistry area, we had a painting of a babbling brook. We had a plexiglass pulpit specially made that didn't include a cross. Oh how awful it was!!! I told people thaat we assumed that they saw the cross on our building as they entered the church property!

I see the fun in all this, but I hope you see my point. It's an assumption, but not based on logic. It might be asserted that some people might FALSELY assume a church that does not sport a huge cross above the pulpit does not preach the cross but there is no logical proofs that say that HAS to be the case,.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

And I believe some of it is motivated by power - nothing more.

Really???? that is SHOCKING!!!


you may want to apologize

Originally Posted by Thad

And did you know that Gloria Married a UPC pastor fairly recently?
perhaps 2005-2006.He's from the Dallas area(name slips my mind right now).I believe he dropped out of UPC shortly after the marriage - caught tremendous flack for it

Thad... your info is not quite correct about this. I know: my son in the gospel is Pastoring the Church the man you speak of left behind. His departure had nothing to do with his new wife but with his 'I changed my mind about what it takes to get to Heaven' message.

MUCH more to the story than catching 'tremendous flack' over it. In fact, I don't think he had a chance to catch flack... I actually think he bailed out just before he married the woman.

[chaotic_resolve]

The funny thing is LB wouldn't be much without his rantings against TV. The only reason he's known so well is because of his publishings and messages against television.

He should be thanking the UPC for both the debate and the vote for Res 4 that has given him a voice.

So my question is this: is LB going to allow TV and this vote on Res 4 to define his message and ministry, or is going to be better than that?

Thus far, this is dictating his ministry and message and that's pretty sad.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

Go to inlandlighthouse.com

Go to the sermoms online link

The sermon tiltled "protecting the bean patch".
It is only on audio...of coarse...LOL.

He told the story but left out the names...so you'd have to be knowledgeable of the the "friends" of TC to know it was the Phillips....he also talked abot Mark Hamby....

Thad's original post was a truthful (except with the names added) I just listened to the sermon....

Wow! What an appropiate name for the message, the BEAN PATCH. More emotional manipulation, and fear mungering.