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Old 08-27-2007, 12:16 AM
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My issue is it took almost 20 pages before someone brought that up as a possibility. Why did it take over a hundred posts before someone brought it up? That's the real story. I'm a thinker and the thinker in me thinks a little digging by the proper people may reveal what caused this dam to burst.

There were moral failures before telvision. There were moral failures before prayer was taken out of schools. Yet somehow every ilk is linked to those two.


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I really don't see how, tv1. It wasn't mentioned in the article, so what does it have to do with this case? Personally, I doubt the Hulings even have the internet. They are very outdoorsy people, when I was there last, they didn't even have a computer. (Granted a few years ago, but not that long.)

I agree the internet is a problem with many people, and the fact that it has more negative potential than TV does need to be addressed, but it has little or nothing to do with this thread or case at this point, unless new information is revealed at some point.

Just because internet is a problem doesn't mean it is the source for every moral failure. There were children being molested, adultery being committed and other crimes being imagined and carried out long before internet was a major player.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:17 AM
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I'm only saying that from my experiences at their home. ...of course, I would've never suspected CH of being capable of molesting a child either.

I doubt CH one day woke up and decided to be a Child Molester...I would suspect that other events (i.e. consistent internet porn usage, etc.) began creeping into his life before he took the risk of going into child molestation....just IMO....therefore, I think there is relevancy to discuss it here.
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My issue is it took almost 20 pages before someone brought that up as a possibility. Why did it take over a hundred posts before someone brought it up? That's the real story. I'm a thinker and the thinker in me thinks a little digging by the proper people may reveal what caused this dam to burst.

There were moral failures before telvision. There were moral failures before prayer was taken out of schools. Yet somehow every ilk is linked to those two.
I didn't say that the internet isn't linked to moral failures. LOL! I just pointed out that it wasn't mentioned in the article, and he obviously molested a "real girl", and thus far hasn't been charged with child porn, viewing, possessing or otherwise. Since the internet wasn't mentioned in any way, even in passing, I didn't think of it, even in passing. I did idly wonder if the girl he confessed to molesting was his only victim....but again, I was thinking "real life", rather than some virtual cyber crime....
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:28 AM
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I doubt CH one day woke up and decided to be a Child Molester...I would suspect that other events (i.e. consistent internet porn usage, etc.) began creeping into his life before he took the risk of going into child molestation....just IMO....therefore, I think there is relevancy to discuss it here.
I'm sure you're right.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:37 AM
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I'm sure you're right.
For all we know there can be people who lurk around as guests of this forum who may be suffering from internet porn or other such diseases...hopefully they wise up and realize this (CH's alleged crime) is what that avenue can lead to...it's an insidious disease that needs to be put in a stranglehold...NOW!
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...There were moral failures before telvision. There were moral failures before prayer was taken out of schools. Yet somehow every ilk is linked to those two.
I wish it were that simple. I have seen the ravages that failings and sin of this kind can take upon a family and church- but I don't think television or school prayer had anything to do with them.

FWIW, I really don't think prayer in the school had anything to do with anything else - in any way. I do believe in the power of prayer, however that rather bland and innocuous "prayer" that was done in the '50s and early 60's had no real spiritual impact of any kind.

I was in school when prayer was "removed" and nothing was really changed by that. The only thing of note that I remember was the day I learned that Protestants and Catholics had different ways of saying the Lord's Prayer. No big deal there and then next... no prayers except before a football game.

I think the only generalization we can make from this is that we are all human and are responsible for how we treat one another. Other people don't exist for our gratification and the more vulnerable a person is, the more attention we need to pay to protecting them.
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:19 AM
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For all we know there can be people who lurk around as guests of this forum who may be suffering from internet porn or other such diseases...hopefully they wise up and realize this (CH's alleged crime) is what that avenue can lead to...it's an insidious disease that needs to be put in a stranglehold...NOW!
This is the truth, and needs to be said.

Lust is like a stream that leads toa river, and the river that eventually flows into the ocean.

It gets bigger and deeper as it goes.

When one strats out in that direction, he never knows how far it will take him.

I too am inclined to think there is at least the possibility that this man started out somewhere and that there were events that led up to this.

That doesn't necessarily have to be so, because there was child molesting going on long before child porn was readily available.

But more often than not I daresay it is involved.
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If you're looking for relevance, here it is.
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If you're looking for relevance, here it is.
Yes it is.
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