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08-15-2007, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve
Something for WH and others to remember is this is a young girl they're bashing. I mean obviously it doesn't mean anything that she's a Holy Ghost-filled, Acts 2:38-believing, UPC-attending apostolic - since they bashed her in spite of that.
In terms they may understand . . . how would WH or others feel if someone bashed their teenage daughter...especially in an online forum? Regardless of right or wrong, I'm sure it would ruffle their feathers.
It's not WH's place...nor anyone else's place to judge or be mean-spirited against this young lady.
Leave her alone and pick on someone else.
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I honestly can't imagine how long this fracture can exist. How long can men fellowship together and consider the other and his flock ETERNALLY DAMNED?
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08-15-2007, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherri
NLYP--
I don't see anything wrong with this gal, but don't you think this sends a mixed message to the young teenagers of UPC by promoting this gal and then teaching the holiness standards that they do? I guess I'm just looking at it from an outside viewpoint, but it seems weird and confusing to me.
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Finally a sensible response on this disaster of a thread.
For various reasons I am trying hard to hold my keyboard on this one.
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08-15-2007, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NLYP
No Sherri.....My old church had girls that dressed this way to prom.
(OH LORD HERE IT COMES)
You have been out to long!!!
We just never made issue of it...and yes we are UPC!
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Dan, my friend, girls that dressed like that and showed that kind of cleavage had serious spiritual problems, as did whoever allowed them (parents) to do it.
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08-15-2007, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
If that is so then my heart would be broken I promise I have never heard of her.
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I don't know whio she is either.
I have read on here where they called Dora Hammer "Dora the Explorer," so I had heard the term, but I have no clue what the character is.
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08-15-2007, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
She's been in church since 8 or 9 ...
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She may have been in "it," but evidently, a lot of "it" never got in her.
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08-15-2007, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
They wear them at their local church ... it's irrelevant IMO.
Why is this a STORY now .... is the bigger and better question ... as dumb as Hoover may think this thread is ...
Everyone in the New York Metro District ... knew Kathleen and her mom were at Bethel ...
This is a compelling story of faith that should've have been told years ago ... but she remained in the closet until 6 weeks before GC is about to finally vote, once and for all, on the TV issue???
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And you really think that Dora the Explorer is going to push the pro-tv vote over the top? I hardly think so. The die is cast, everyone had their muind made up last year. I doubt too many have evolved one way or the other. Besides, maybe 5% of the voting ministry were present at YC.
Don't read too much into it.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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08-15-2007, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
And you really think that Dora the Explorer is going to push the pro-tv vote over the top? I hardly think so. The die is cast, everyone had their muind made up last year. I doubt too many have evolved one way or the other. Besides, maybe 5% of the voting ministry were present at YC.
Don't read too much into it.
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I don't think having her on stage was a political move either.
I think it was just symptomatic of the fascination some have with anything Hollywood, and of the desire to stroke the egos of the self-loathing with an example of "See? We can fit in with this present world if we will let down enough!"
This inferiority complex so many Apostolics have, and the desire to be accepted by the godless society we live in is the single most disturbing trend I see in the church today.
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08-15-2007, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
and you don't think her pics were immodest? the ones at the award ceremony
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Would there be any pictures of you at any given point in your life that you would not want your salvation determined by? Its one thing to define a picture as immodest and another to say "she IS a sinner" based on a moment.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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08-15-2007, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by NLYP
YOU KNOW WHAT IS AMAZING!!!!
17,000 young people.......Lord knows how many hundreds of churches represented.
They introduce a TV star and the place goes nuts!!!!!
AMAZING how those youth knew about a tv star since we have so many Pastors that teach against it!!!
LOLOLOL
Can anybody but me see the light!!!
COME ON RES 4!!!!!!!!
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Dora has been seen by our young people on VHS/DVD I am sure.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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08-15-2007, 08:11 AM
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His word burns in my heart like a fire...Fire Fall Down
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coonskinner
I don't know whio she is either.
I have read on here where they called Dora Hammer "Dora the Explorer," so I had heard the term, but I have no clue what the character is.
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The UPC girl, Kathleen, who was showcased at Youth Congress last week is the voice of the VERY POPULAR children's cartoon character Dora the Explorer...a cartoon show with a very good message and is acceptable for christian kids.
Coonskinner, you too, meet Dora the Explorer
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