Help! Tormented dreams

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

How do you know? You've only met one person who you are certain is demonically possessed. So how do you know for yourself, empirically speaking, that what you say is true?

C'mon... are you saying they don't? Sometimes prolonged oppression can lead to possession.

Or are you taking someone else's word for it?

There's plenty of testimonies and material out there. I've faced demonic oppression, many believers have. And yes, there are those who are possessed who come to the Lord and are set free. And many of their symptoms were indeed the same.

How many people have you met that were demonically oppressed, that you could prove objectively, and not simply through some cop-out you call "discernment"?

Well, discernment is a big part of it. However, I'd say that we can be relatively certain that it was spiritual oppression if we rebuke any spirit that might possibly be behind someone's depression (for example) and the symptoms cease. Most of the time a believer with the Holy Spirit can sense a spiritual attack. If the one seeking prayer tells me, "I believe I'm being attacked by a spirit in my mind and dreams.", I'd start there. It's not rocket science.

See, you keep passing on this information like it's coming from an expert, but you've already admitted you have little experience in any of this, despite the almost two years you spent hanging around with a dubious to say the least, deliverance minister named Matt Burris.

Bro., I told you that I had under two years of being involved with them. Did I go to every deliverance meeting? Nope. Did I follow him like a groupie? Nope. I believe we had maybe four to five deliverance services total. I joined him when invited to come along as support in prayer for a woman who thought she had a spirit in her home on one occasion. I wasn't following the guy around like he was Jim Jones, finding a devil under every rock.

What I find interesting is that people talk about those involved in deliverance ministry as though we find devils under every rock and behind every blade of grass. That wasn't my experience. It's possible to go weeks before encountering some form of demonic opposition. What surprises me is that you sound like you have encountered far more of these spirits than I have. And that's probably because you were possessed and an occultist at one time. I wasn't. To me, it's real. It happens. But it isn't something I encounter every day.

[Aquila]

Evang.Benincasa,

Let me simply ask a couple questions. Moving forward:

Realistically, what do you wish to see happen?

What are you wanting from me?

How can this conflict be resolved?

[n david]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

1. Noticing a presence as in someone watching you.
Its usually my toddler
2. A heaviness or fearfulness in a certain room of your home.
any bathroom I just left
3. Sensing a cold spot in a room or cold feeling on part or all of your physical body.
right in front of the AC
4. Feeling someone touch you when you are all alone or no one nearby.
again....my toddler
5. A burning sensation at the upper back just below the nape of your neck, potentially accompanied by the feeling of tingling.
its called sunburn...this is the South...its a thing.
6. Sensing frightening Shadows from the corner of your eyes.
Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!!!
7. Behavior and personality changes.
Im married to a woman....its a thing.
8. A loss of self-esteem and/or self-confidence.
Im massively overweight...its a thing
9. Recurrent or frequent nightmares, such as unwanted sexual experiences, being raped, tormented, or tortured.
Oh Lord....I hear banjos...paddle faster
10. Major changes in clarity of thinking or analytical ability.
could be stress,fatigue,low blood sugar or illness
11. Memory lapses.
Hey.Did I ever tell yall that we make candles ?
12. A drained feeling or fatigue without cause, as in a drain of vitality or physical strength.
typically felt during a visit from my MIL
13. Hearing harassing voices inside your mind, as in negative words, demoralizing and degrading you, and suggesting you do things you do not wish to do.
those voices usually say things like,change this poopy diaper and dont whine about the smell.
14. Illnesses that come on suddenly that a doctor cannot diagnose.
my MIL is either a very bad cook,or a very good assassin.
15. Sudden illnesses that cannot be explained, as in flu-like symptoms, headache, low-vibrational trauma inside your body.
literal flu with my phone set on vibrate trapped in a fat roll.
16. Hallucinations.
Ha! Thats silly. Well Im off to pet that unicorn!
17. Inability to sleep well without having to take sleep aids.
Sleep AIDS....is that what I get when I use Charlie Sheens pillow?
18. Waking up in the middle of the night sensing someone in the room.
Like Jesus?
19. Sleep-walking, conversations, or other actions during sleep that you cannot remember upon waking.
Yeah, explained easily by science.

20. Difficulty coping with the routine of everyday life.

who tha heck has a routine life???
21. Sudden explicable inability to cope with responsibilities, such as hardship at work doing what used to be easy.
its called burnout....its a thing
22. Depression without understanding why or knowing an apparent cause, and becoming chronic.
ive been depressed from the lack of chronic but yet to have my depression to become chronic.
23. Sudden bouts of sorrow, sadness, fear, or dread without explanation.
yeah...it means your mask is slipping and all the things youve avoided dealing with in life is overwhelming your ability to hide it.
24. Feeling trapped or helpless for no apparent reason.
theres always a reason...
25. Intrusive negative thoughts that insight feelings of anger, rage, or the desire to inflict physical violence upon yourself or others.
have you never seen Teletubbies????
26. Compulsive immoral behaviors that fill you with feelings of shame, guilty, and condemnation.
I really should stop Dutch Ovening my wife...
27. Feeling isolated, and even wanting to be isolated.
yep...cause Im a introvert...I like my solitude
28. Anxiety or unexplainable disinterest relating to attending religious worship or activities.
usually kicks in when people try to turn church into a pep rally
29. Feelings of fear or dread when preparing to read your Bible.
nope
30. Sudden dislike for religious music.

yep...cant stand the McKaymys

I had tears. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

Thank you, Lord. Musicians come.

[Esaias]

EDITED due to the website being immature and inappropriate.

However, be aware that a dutch oven CAN be deadly, if you displace enough oxygen death can result in 18 seconds...

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

EDITED due to the website being immature and inappropriate.

However, be aware that a dutch oven CAN be deadly, if you displace enough oxygen death can result in 18 seconds...

Seriously?

[Esaias]

So much for tonight's plans, eh?

lol

[Esaias]

And yes, I realize I had said I would post no more in this thread, but things got serious, lives were in danger, but hopefully wives across America are safer now.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So much for tonight's plans, eh?

lol

too bad she lost the bet.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by n david

I had tears. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

Thank you, Lord. Musicians come.

just dont play anything from the mckameys

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

And yes, I realize I had said I would post no more in this thread, but things got serious, lives were in danger, but hopefully wives across America are safer now.