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Old 07-23-2012, 05:03 PM
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Re: What's your favorite canon?

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What's your favorite canon, and why?

Thought about making a poll, but there are too many to choose from.

1. Protestant
2. Protestant, without the ones Martin Luther didn't like
3. Roman Catholic
4. Ethiopian Orthodox
5. Eastern Orthodox
6. Armenian Apostolic (has a catchy name, don't you think?)
7. Coptic Orthodox
8. Syriac Orthodox
9. Greek Orthodox
10. Slavonic Orthodox
11. Georgian Orthodox
12. Other (I know this list isn't complete. Find another one you like, or make you own!)
Good question.

Right now I use the KJV primarily, although I also use a Greek/English Septuagint and an interlinear New Testament.

I prefer the Greek version of Esther to the Masoretic, I believe if either of them are inspired the Greek version would be the more likely candidate.

I have my doubts about the Song of Solomon but I don't see anything in it that would cause me to deny it as inspired, I just have my doubts about it's place in the canon.

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Number, Deuteronomy definitely in the canon.

The Major and Minor Prophets, I accept as inspired.
Psalms (the numbering system is irrelevant, imo). Although I do believe the eastern Orthodox have an additional Psalm in there. Haven't looked too closely at that particular difference but I was under the impression that extra Psalm might actually be repeated somewhere else in scripture thus making that issue moot.

I do not accept the 'additions to Daniel' as inspired, nor do I accept the rest of the 'apocrypha' as inspired. I DO however use them for study, and my children are becoming more familiar with them as well.

Enoch, Jubilees, other Essene and Dead Sea scroll type writings I find interesting but not inspired.

In the NT, I have some questions about Philemon (like, what's the point of it being in the bible?) but on the whole I accept the Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox New Testament canon. (I prefer the Textus Receptus as being a superior text to the 'modern, critical' texts, though - which is one reason I use the KJV).

The book of Jasher I believe is a fake from the 19th century (I have a copy of it and have read it).

William Whiston, in an appendix to his edition of Josephus' writings, has a very interesting article on the subject of the OT canon, which I recommend (with a grain of salt) for anyone interested in the topic.

I have found that in the days of Jesus and the apostles, there WERE 'canon disputes' going on within Judaism. I find it interesting they never seemed to have addressed the subject.

Almost as if the subject of 'the canon, which translation, etc' were somehow foreign to them... almost as if they had a different paradigm, a way of looking at Scripture with a point of view and an understanding that we do not currently have.

I am CURRENTLY confident in saying if you have a King James Bible you have all the written word of God you NEED. I am also confident in saying I am still learning about this very topic.

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Old 07-24-2012, 05:43 PM
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Re: What's your favorite canon?

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Pretty much any book has merit. Do you mean it has some degree of divine inspiration and/or infallibility?
yes, I am one of the few who believes that it should be part of the bible.
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:40 PM
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yes, I am one of the few who believes that it should be part of the bible.
Cool.

Is it a sin to think a book that is in the Bible (let's use the usual Protestant canon, for the purpose of this question) shouldn't be? For example, what if I thought James wasn't inspired by God?
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:24 PM
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Re: What's your favorite canon?

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...Psalms (the numbering system is irrelevant, imo). Although I do believe the eastern Orthodox have an additional Psalm in there. Haven't looked too closely at that particular difference but I was under the impression that extra Psalm might actually be repeated somewhere else in scripture thus making that issue moot....
Two things about the numbering in the Book of Psalms.
Our KJV follows the Hebrew numbering system.
What was Psalm 10 in the Hebrew Bible was made Psalm 11 in the Greek Bible.
Then the Psalms in the Greek Bible were one number behind the Hebrew Bible. For example the famous Shepherd Psalm, Psalm 23 is Psalm 22 in the Greek Bible. They do catch up with each other later as follows:

Hebrew/Greek
1-8/ 1-8
9-10/ 9
11-113/ 10-112
114-115/ 113
116/ 114-115
117-146/ 116-145
147/ 146-147
148-150/ 148-150
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Psalm 151

Psalm 151 is the name given to a short psalm that is found in most copies of the Septuagint or LXX or Greek but not in the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible. It is included also in some manuscripts of the Peshitta.

Although for many years scholars believed that Psalm 151 might have been an original Greek composition and that “there is no evidence that Psalm 151 ever existed in Hebrew”, we now know from the Dead Sea scrolls that this psalm did in fact exist in Hebrew and was a part of the psalter used by the Qumran community. Psalm 151 appears along with a number of canonical and non-canonical psalms in the Dead Sea scrolls

The Eastern Orthodox Church accepts Psalm 151 as canonical. Roman Catholics, Protestants, and most Jews consider it apocryphal. However, it is found in an appendix in some Catholic Bibles, such as certain editions of the Latin Vulgate, as well as in some ecumenical translations, such as the New Revised Standard Version.

Haile Selassie (born July 23, 1892 , died August 27, 1975), was Ethiopia's regent from 1916 to 1930 and Emperor of Ethiopia from 1930 to 1974.At the beginning of his first address to his Council of State, Emperor Haile Selassie recited this psalm in total.

Here is Psalm 151 from my NRSV Bible

This psalm is ascribed to David as his own composition (though it is outside the number), after he had fought in single combat with Goliath.

1 I was small among my brothers,
and the youngest in my father’s house;
I tended my father’s sheep.
2 My hands made a harp;
my fingers fashioned a lyre.
3 And who will tell my Lord?
The Lord himself; it is he who hears.
4 It was he who sent his messenger
and took me from my father’s sheep,
and anointed me with his anointing oil.
5 My brothers were handsome and tall,
but the Lord was not pleased with them.
6 I went out to meet the Philistine,
and he cursed me by his idols.
7 But I drew his own sword;
I beheaded him, and took away disgrace from the people of Israel.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:58 PM
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Cool.

Is it a sin to think a book that is in the Bible (let's use the usual Protestant canon, for the purpose of this question) shouldn't be? For example, what if I thought James wasn't inspired by God?
LOL!!!!! Seems to me that you should ignore it, but taking that chance could be detrimental to your spiritual health I suppose.

(of course me thinking that Enoch should be an inspired book doesn't make me an expert)
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:26 PM
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LOL!!!!! Seems to me that you should ignore it, but taking that chance could be detrimental to your spiritual health I suppose...
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My favorite canon has to be Dyan Canon.
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My favorite canon has to be Dyan Canon.


Er, I mean...
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