Ferd, it's ironic that you would make these two statements in one post because many people would argue that it was incredibly poor judgement that has gotten us to this point in Iraq....of course, it was something that Obama thought was bad judgement all along.
my friend, what got us HERE doesnt matter nearly as much as where we GO from here.
I would argue the bad judgement was letting Rummy run things. being there wasnt what wasnt right. what wasnt right was what we did once there.
now we are doing what is right (and what John McCain said we should do)
so as far as I am concerned it isnt ironic at all....except and American presidential candidate having a viable chance at winning the whitehouse on a platform of American Defeat as the best thing for America. now that there is Ironic.
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tstew. we dont completely agree that the policy related to Iran is failed.
but lets assume for arguments sake that it IS failed.
then lets take Obama at face value. Obama has clearly explained his position on this. and his position is to do something that failed to replace something that is failing and using the earlier failure as REASON to return to the earlier policy that failed!
If Obama were advocating something NEW then you would have a valid arguement. But he isnt advocting something new. He is advocating something that has both been done before and failed before, all the while (and this is the really important part)using the previous failure as reason to move back to that failed policy!
dont you see that?
Dude, if you want change in policy LOOK AT JOHN MCCAIN! the man articulated a vastly different policy in Iraq, and when the president listened to McCain, that new and different course has changed things for the better.
these are clearly 2 very different methods of approach one looking for NEW WORKABLE solutions and the other a retred of past failures!
Our actions in Iraq have made the situation in Iran even more threatening (I don't have time to get into the whole Sunni Shiite thing again, but you must have a fundamental understanding of all the sectarian dynamics in that region).
I'm saying that if we get to a place that tough diplomacy as an alternative or even a prelude to war is outrageous, we are in a dangerous place.
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my friend, what got us HERE doesnt matter nearly as much as where we GO from here.
I would argue the bad judgement was letting Rummy run things. being there wasnt what wasnt right. what wasnt right was what we did once there.
now we are doing what is right (and what John McCain said we should do)
so as far as I am concerned it isnt ironic at all....except and American presidential candidate having a viable chance at winning the whitehouse on a platform of American Defeat as the best thing for America. now that there is Ironic.
Ferd, you can't have it both ways. You can't scour Obama's past to demonstrate bad judgement because of who he associates with...but then when discussing bad judgements based specifically on bad judgements made say what got us here doesn't matter.
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