Hispanics...What to do with THEM !! - Page 2

Trouvere · #11 10-12-2007, 04:25 PM

Sorry but I don't see the problem.There is an org of spainish pastors.The UPC is not the only org.There are many oneness orgs.Maybe its because you belong to an org that just doesn't have alot of spainish pastors.That could be the problem.

Sam · #12 10-12-2007, 04:26 PM

Hey, I'm old enough to remember when the UPC Manual had a separate listing for "Colored" ministers at the back of the book.

Some progress has been made.

Trouvere · #13 10-12-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Hey, I'm old enough to remember when the UPC Manual had a separate listing for "Colored" ministers at the back of the book.

Some progress has been made.

what color???

#14 10-12-2007, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

Sorry but I don't see the problem.There is an org of spainish pastors.The UPC is not the only org.There are many oneness orgs.Maybe its because you belong to an org that just doesn't have alot of spainish pastors.That could be the problem.

Oh yes I understand the UPCI is not the only oneness org and I do not want to leave I love the bretheren. You have just offered me the option to leave and that would seem counter productin especially with current events.

#15 10-12-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Hey, I'm old enough to remember when the UPC Manual had a separate listing for "Colored" ministers at the back of the book.

Some progress has been made.

sad...well at least we've come a little farther

Trouvere · #16 10-12-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chosen

Oh yes I understand the UPCI is not the only oneness org and I do not want to leave I love the bretheren. You have just offered me the option to leave and that would seem counter productin especially with current events.

Sorry but I don't think its a problem.The UPC is a ministerial org.Go to the presbyter and district board and apply.That is all I ever did.You pay your dues don't you? Anything I ever needed from the UPCI I just called headquarters and asked for the appropriate person and voila just like that it was in the mail or I was given the number of the person who could help me.
Its not an org that is going to give you a ministry.Jesus gives the ministry.
The org is simply a network of ministers to help you in what you are already doing.

BrotherEastman · #17 10-12-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chosen

I believe the issue is not that it has been an odyssey with me but that it has been an issue at all. In other words why is there a need to jump through hurdles, to go out of my way to simply want to work?

I respect hierarchy and understand protocol and so forth but you and I both know very well that if I go outside "my" immediate leadership network for help in this , it will be frowned upon by the ones over me and I may will be labled a "rebeller" for not following sop (which I have to no avail).

If I were a pastor, then I would definately have you in leadership. Does that make you feel better? LOL!

#18 10-12-2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

Sorry but I don't think its a problem.The UPC is a ministerial org.Go to the presbyter and district board and apply.That is all I ever did.You pay your dues don't you? Anything I ever needed from the UPCI I just called headquarters and asked for the appropriate person and voila just like that it was in the mail or I was given the number of the person who could help me.
Its not an org that is going to give you a ministry.Jesus gives the ministry.
The org is simply a network of ministers to help you in what you are already doing.

thank you for your input