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Old 07-18-2007, 04:09 PM
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(a) The term "under question" shall be taken to mean a formal decision by a District Board reflecting a concern that conduct in flagrant violation of the Manual of the United Pentecostal Church International has occurred.

(b) The term "conduct unbecoming a minister" shall be taken to mean any conduct of a moral, financial, or ethical nature that would cause a reproach upon the ministry.
Amendment - Instead of "has occurred" will need to be changed to, "has been proven through the UPCI judiciary process". Otherwise, speculation and spurious information will harm a man that could be innocent of the charges.


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Old 07-18-2007, 04:10 PM
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PP it might be better since before the official would interpet this like he wanted without any perimeters.
Very good point. So you think maybe they are wanting to take some control away from the Districts?
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:14 PM
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I hope you're going to be there to cast your vote!

My pastor is.

I will be there. There is no way the television issue is going to pass though. I will be shocked if it does. There will be no big split this year. There will just be a steady trickle of young ministers exiting the org.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:18 PM
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We left of our own will, under no question from the UPC. However, after all these years, when we preach in a UPC church, it still has to be kept "secret" and it isn't advertised. This has happened more than once in more than one place, and I think it's funny. But the stigma is still there, no matter how you left.

Sherri, on two different occasions (last year) I received calls from District officials asking me to cancel speaking engagements at Independent works in another state. The meetings were advertised with my name on them and UPC pastors complained that my presence would draw saints from their churches.

I laughed so hard I almost cried. I am a nobody. Most folks wouldn't come to hear me if I paid them to!
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:20 PM
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Sherri, on two different occasions (last year) I received calls from District officials asking me to cancel speaking engagements at Independent works in another state. The meetings were advertised with my name on them and UPC pastors complained that my presence would draw saints from their churches.

I laughed so hard I almost cried. I am a nobody. Most folks wouldn't come to hear me if I paid them to!
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:22 PM
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Sherri, on two different occasions (last year) I received calls from District officials asking me to cancel speaking engagements at Independent works in another state. The meetings were advertised with my name on them and UPC pastors complained that my presence would draw saints from their churches.

I laughed so hard I almost cried. I am a nobody. Most folks wouldn't come to hear me if I paid them to!
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:24 PM
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:25 PM
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Amendment - Instead of "has occurred" will need to be changed to, "has been proven through the UPCI judiciary process". Otherwise, speculation and spurious information will harm a man that could be innocent of the charges.


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Happens all the time. Straightline, do you think this is our version of "shunning"?
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:28 PM
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Did you go? I would have.
No, I didn't go.

The two pastors were kind and understanding, though I felt like scum. I didn't go cause I love my District Sup and my going would have caused him big turmoil.

One of the pastors that complained was a big mover in the org and he didn't want to deal with the fall out.

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