The Current PAJC Beliefs

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Oh, I don't know about that last little dig - friend.

I am a tee-total three stepper. All I know is what I see in the word that Peter preached at Pentecost. I just preach what's there. I'm not God, and it would be foolish of me to question his plan.

I have never been in the business of deciding who will be in Heaven, and who will be in Hell. There is only one Judge. I'm not him. So, I'll just keep on preaching truth, and leave the saving up to Him.

PP ... it's how it's taught by many ....

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by PastorPoster

All I know is what I see in the word that Peter preached at Pentecost. I just preach what's there. I'm not God, and it would be foolish of me to question his plan.

But you see boys .... this is the thing ....... we all preach and teach Acts 2:38 and we all get the same results!!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Now in my case .. I received the baptism of the HG on ,October 4, 1981 before I was water baptized on November 8th, 1981...

hence ...I was certified with sin still upon me????



EN EL NOMBRE DE JESUS ....BRONX, NY

According to the way I understand what we call PAJC beliefs, you were not born again until your water baptism because that is considered "born of water" and you were still in your sins because the name of Jesus in water baptism washes away or remits (or forgives to some) sins. So, one is not "rapture ready" until all three steps are completed --but that only meets minimum qualifications --after those three steps you must be under the authority of a pastor and completely obey whatever he/she tells you.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Sam

According to the way I understand what we call PAJC beliefs, you were not born again until your water baptism because that is considered "born of water" and you were still in your sins because the name of Jesus in water baptism washes away or remits (or forgives to some) sins. So, one is not "rapture ready" until all three steps are completed --but that only meets minimum qualifications --after those three steps you must be under the authority of a pastor and completely obey whatever he/she tells you.

Yeah, there are some freaky-cons out there. I am not one of them.
Don't stereotype us all.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Sam

According to the way I understand what we call PAJC beliefs, you were not born again until your water baptism because that is considered "born of water" and you were still in your sins because the name of Jesus in water baptism washes away or remits (or forgives to some) sins. So, one is not "rapture ready" until all three steps are completed --but that only meets minimum qualifications --after those three steps you must be under the authority of a pastor and completely obey whatever he/she tells you.

Are you rapture ready if you are not obedient?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Sam

According to the way I understand what we call PAJC beliefs, you were not born again until your water baptism because that is considered "born of water" and you were still in your sins because the name of Jesus in water baptism washes away or remits (or forgives to some) sins. So, one is not "rapture ready" until all three steps are completed --but that only meets minimum qualifications --after those three steps you must be under the authority of a pastor and completely obey whatever he/she tells you.

so I was filled and baptized by His Holy Spirit while still dirty w/ sin???

[Felicity]

According to many PAJCers if you don't follow the holiness standards you still ain't saved regardless of whether you've completed Steps 1-3 or not.

You seriously have to wonder sometimes if and when the poor souls ever get to go to heaven because there are so many steps.

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Oh, I don't know about that last little dig - friend.

I am a tee-total three stepper. All I know is what I see in the word that Peter preached at Pentecost. I just preach what's there. I'm not God, and it would be foolish of me to question his plan.

I have never been in the business of deciding who will be in Heaven, and who will be in Hell. There is only one Judge. I'm not him. So, I'll just keep on preaching truth, and leave the saving up to Him.

No dig, friend! That is an Epleyism.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

so I was filled and baptized in by His Holy Spirit while still dirty w/ sin???

Here you may get a couple answers.

1. Yes, you were still in sin until water baptized in Jesus' name.
2. You didn't get the REAL Holy Ghost.

Number 1 could be considered a breech birth or a backward birth by some.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Sam

Here you may get a couple answers.

1. Yes, you were still in sin until water baptized in Jesus' name.
2. You didn't get the REAL Holy Ghost.

Number 1 could be considered a breech birth or a backward birth by some.

WOW!!!!