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Old 07-11-2007, 01:18 PM
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Cotton, have you walked down the hallway and asked one of your co-workers that question?

Hmmmmm
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:20 PM
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Hmmmmm
You are Amish, right?
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:21 PM
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I pretty much agree with the above definition of a cult but think it almost always applies to individual groups and churches then most organizations (SOME exceptions).
For instance I can easily see a specific church being a cult, where the organization as a whole is not. (Although I would certainly fault the powers that be in the org for not keeping a tighter rein on the leader of the group.)
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:30 PM
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RandyWayne, you bust any myths lately?
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:31 PM
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In my opinion, it seems that the generally accepted concensus is that a cult is defined by the following standards:


1. An attempt to manipulate and break down the minds of individuals and assimilate them into a collective group-think. A complete suppression of individualism.

2. An ongoing process of controlling the broken for selfish purposes.

3. Questioning and critical thinking is viewed as rebellious and a danger to the community.

4. Extremely heavy-handed leadership that is answerable to no one.


Is this an accurate assessment?

Where did you get this list? Are you sure these items aren't from a booklet entitled 'Pastoring for dummies?'
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:36 PM
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Yes, with Busters help.....
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:17 PM
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In my opinion, it seems that the generally accepted concensus is that a cult is defined by the following standards:


1. An attempt to manipulate and break down the minds of individuals and assimilate them into a collective group-think. A complete suppression of individualism.

2. An ongoing process of controlling the broken for selfish purposes.

3. Questioning and critical thinking is viewed as rebellious and a danger to the community.

4. Extremely heavy-handed leadership that is answerable to no one.


Is this an accurate assessment?
5. Centered on the particular person that is leading the group and not on Christ.
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:20 PM
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5. Centered on the particular person that is leading the group and not on Christ.
Uh oh. Is there a Joel Osteen cult? Is there a James Dobson cult? Is there a Chuck Swindoll cult?
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:34 PM
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Uh oh. Is there a Joel Osteen cult? Is there a James Dobson cult? Is there a Chuck Swindoll cult?
They do have the potential of becoming cults, yes.
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:35 PM
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They do have the potential of becoming cults, yes.
Dogbert says the best way to take over the world is to start a religion.
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