Any One Know What This Scripture Means

[Sister Alvear]

Why don´t we all set our differences aside...go look at the Brazil pictures...pray for your lost earth brother...love one another...

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Uh....

These things are not outside the unregenerated nature of man.

What indication do you have from scripture that it was demonic?

It was false... that is for sure.

But to say it was demonic would be to say that what they did was influenced by demons.

Nothing they did was outside the ability of man, on his own, to conjure in his own misled & carnal reasoning.

Is there any scriptural reason you have for you insistence that this was demonic?



These are the works of the FLESH... not of demons....

Of course... something that is demonic might well include these things but these things do not, in and of themselves, denote demonic influence. Man is degenerate enough on his own to do these things.

I can understand your reasoning here for sure although I don't agree...

When the flesh is allowed to go into idol worship on the scale of chanting, dancing, and entertaining other spirits, in every instance I have seen, it is demonic in nature...

Besides the fact that BS openly made references to the devil and his influence...

[Sister Alvear]

1st JOHN
Chapter 4

(1 John 4:1 NKJV) Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

(1 John 4:2 NKJV) By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,

(1 John 4:3 NKJV) and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

(1 John 4:4 NKJV) You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

(1 John 4:5 NKJV) They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them.

(1 John 4:6 NKJV) We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

(1 John 4:7 NKJV) Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.

(1 John 4:8 NKJV) He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

(1 John 4:9 NKJV) In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.

(1 John 4:10 NKJV) In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

(1 John 4:11 NKJV) Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.

(1 John 4:12 NKJV) No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.

(1 John 4:13 NKJV) By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.

(1 John 4:14 NKJV) And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world.

(1 John 4:15 NKJV) Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.

(1 John 4:16 NKJV) And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.

(1 John 4:17 NKJV) Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.

(1 John 4:18 NKJV) There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.

(1 John 4:19 NKJV) We love Him because He first loved us.

(1 John 4:20 NKJV) If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?

(1 John 4:21 NKJV) And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.

Originally Posted by triumphant1

The people danced naked before a golden God...

Correction.. LITTLE 'g', friend. LITTLE 'g'.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Correction.. LITTLE 'g', friend. LITTLE 'g'.

Emergency alert! Emergency alert!

Edited! Edited! Edited!!!!!

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

1st JOHN
Chapter 4

(1 John 4:1 NKJV) Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

(1 John 4:2 NKJV) By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,

(1 John 4:3 NKJV) and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

(1 John 4:4 NKJV) You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

(1 John 4:5 NKJV) They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them.

(1 John 4:6 NKJV) We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

(1 John 4:7 NKJV) Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.

(1 John 4:8 NKJV) He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

(1 John 4:9 NKJV) In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.

(1 John 4:10 NKJV) In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

(1 John 4:11 NKJV) Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.

(1 John 4:12 NKJV) No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.

(1 John 4:13 NKJV) By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.

(1 John 4:14 NKJV) And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world.

(1 John 4:15 NKJV) Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.

(1 John 4:16 NKJV) And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.

(1 John 4:17 NKJV) Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.

(1 John 4:18 NKJV) There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.

(1 John 4:19 NKJV) We love Him because He first loved us.

(1 John 4:20 NKJV) If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?

(1 John 4:21 NKJV) And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.

I appreciate the effort here...but just for the record, I do not hate Bro. Strange...or anyone else in this discussion....

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

I can understand your reasoning here for sure although I don't agree...

When the flesh is allowed to go into idol worship on the scale of chanting, dancing, and entertaining other spirits, in every instance I have seen, it is demonic in nature...

Besides the fact that BS openly made references to the devil and his influence...

I appreciate your concession and, if I may be allowed, I would like to make on small point concerning the thoughts you presented above.

I can't make any judgements as to what they may have or may not have entertained but I offer these last 2 scriptures in my assertion that their worship had followed the flesh and was misguided.

Exd 32:5 And when Aaron saw [it], he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow [is] a feast to the LORD.
Exd 32:6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.

What they did was WAY off the mark but they were, at least in word, attempting to make a feast unto the Lord but they were wholly misguided in this attempt and followed fleshly and carnal reasoning.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I appreciate your concession and, if I may be allowed, I would like to make on small point concerning the thoughts you presented above.

I can't make any judgements as to what they may have or may not have entertained but I offer these last 2 scriptures in my assertion that their worship had followed the flesh and was misguided.



What they did was WAY off the mark but they were, at least in word, attempting to make a feast unto the Lord but they were wholly misguided in this attempt and followed fleshly and carnal reasoning.

I do see the point for sure although again, I do believe that at some point it became demonically influenced....this can happen on a dance floor at the local club with its music and dancing....

I certainly believe that the devil will get involved any time the flesh gets out of hand in any form of idol worship...around the golden calf the people gave themselves over to "another spirit" which is the charge BS gave against the La Dist. Camp.

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by Sam

Brother Strange,
You are highly respected here.
You are a man of experience and discernment.
You have walked in the Spirit for a long time.
You posted your heart and some took exception to some of the things you said.
Then, things escalated. Some folks spoke a little too hastily and vehemently.
Because we're human and still carrying around this old man of flesh, sometimes we do that.
You don't have to justify yourself.
Why not just let it drop?
and let the thread disappear off the "new posts" section into oblivion?

I have little respect for ministers who use a public internet forum to air their accusations against another minister . . . and even less if the accusor doesn't confront the accused face to face.

I don't agree, sir. He made accusations and I want him to back them up. Either that or retract them completely.

It won't drop. Not until it's either proven or retracted. I'll bump 'til I'm banned before this is just dropped and given a pass. I refuse to sit around allowing someone to accuse someone else without proof.

Present the proof or retract it and I'll shut up. Otherwise, grab some Advil.

[Steve Epley]

Prophecy is to be judged period. You miss you are out.